Playing marbles...

Jump rope. regular, double dutch, and chinese.

Objection is just a test. Liked that.
How to become world class ? Find the best people and suck the knowledge out of them. Yep :)

Yes Eric, we really are picking/learning so many values/lessons from your great interviews like this one.

Work smarter, not harder.

QOTD: Playing soccer on the street with my friends. But is that 'old school'? :-)

I agree with Mike and Eric on the topics discussed in this interview, and I enjoyed it greatly. I do have one pet peeve, however, and that's people in Network Marketing thinking that cars, houses, clothes make you look successful.

To a point, we need to dress well and drive a decent car, there is no argument there. Where I have a problem is people thinking that having all of these things proves success. Success is being the real thing, that means providing what people need and want by showing a genuine interest in a person. It doesn't matter if it's on the phone, on the Internet or in person, what sells you is how you see yourself, how you value your own knowledge, skills, talents, and how you relate to people.

Clean and neat clothes make the man or women look serious about their work and very professional, but it's not the house or cars that sells people on you. I've been in Network Marketing since 1977 and so I've seen it all. What impressed me about my sponsor was his neat and pressed clothing after driving two and a half hours to see me. What impressed me about this man was the message he had for me and how he presented it...he had pure confidence and self-worth. That is what I copied and that is how I succeeded. It's not the false representations that make you someone people want to follow, it's the confidence and self-assurance (just like Mike said).

I am concerned that people in Network Marketing get way too hung up on the material things to imitate success when what people really want is to know you are serious, that you do what you say you will do, that you are committed to being the best you can be, that you offer something that they need and want, and that you genuinely care about the person. That is really the bottom line here.

If you'd like to get regurgitated information and your personal information sold for money... follow this guy. This is shameless promotion.

Mike who are you referring to in this post?

Great information!

I've been using the Internet and attraction marketing for a while now and it works Mike.

Thanks for all the great tools that you have given us!

Have a great day!

Robert Garcia
http://SponsorEasily.com

Great message! Having a prosperity mindset is huge. This belief will also make you more attractive to others. Re-inventing yourself is important as well, you almost have to step away from yourself and look at YOU Inc. and not Agel, Amway, Pre-paid Legal, or Zrii. At the end of the day it's all about your ability to get people to trust you enough to want to work with you. And as you said Eric, "Come join me, and we can make some money together".

Great part 3. Half the success in recruiting is leadership, confidence and posture. The good news is that even if you don't necessarily feel you have it, as Mike said you can always reinvent yourself and decide that you are going to have it anyway. People want to work with people who are confident and can lead and direct them. Awesome stuff!

There is one phrase you said Eric that will make a lot of people a lot more successful early in their NM biz 'if' they adopt it.

At 3:57 min - "Look, if we get involved, we're going to make money together".
And then Mike says at 4:41 min: "Here's what we're going to do next".

The key words are "we" and "we're".
Leveraging oneself and the other person together to become a more powerful unit.

Then as the unit grows in numbers, apply that principle to the group and watch it explode.

I am not sure if this qualifies as an "old school" game, but........

When I was a kid we would go down to the park, flip up a picnic table to form a backstop, chalk out a strike zone and then throw a tennis ball as hard as we could from 40' to see if we could hit it.

The thing is when we stepped up to organized baseball we all found it so much easier to hit a bigger ball from 60'

Eric one last thing
I think ego, replace lack of MLM buildings insctitutions like a MLM campus university
Leaders like Jim Rohn are examples of living institutions
We are social animals with a gen that make us to need to believe, somebody to follow
Profesionals, in the real world, dont follow leaders, they have leaders, but all of them under a prestigious university and a huge institutuional building.
Universities are the social proof for profesionals

About the meaning

More than imitating leaders, we need leaders to find deep meaning and teach deep meaning in huge institutional buildings. End of the story.
A imitattion a mimic, is OK, but the "energy" of that same act is not the same from the original who own the deep meaning of the words he use when he thinks. We think in words. If our words are meaningless in a deep meaning, our acts are poor and so our results.
THINK = DO = RESULTS
You konw that fomula
You can imitate Jim Rohn´s posture , but will never have the same power, UNTILL have the meaning, the deep meaning he understood to have a natural posture.
Posture is the natural result of the meaning of the words we understand, our own oppinion and self estime.
And finding the deep meaning of the words we use I think is a neverending process.
In universities, they dont teach deep meaning, just superficial meaning, they teach only scientific method
I am waiting the part 4
Kind Regards and thanks again
Arch. Juan Carlos Torrico, from Santiago de Chile
Insteadof that

Rugby, and parachiting like Kiyosaki did
Both of them teach me life skills

Something to say

When old school and new school integrates, is PRO
Whay do you mean with PRO or professional?
Do we understand the deep meaning of this word?
We live in the information era, but
do we know the deep meaning of the owrds we use ti think?
NO
we dont have time to think in the deep meaning of one word
we prefer to consume words and words, but not one of them has a deep meanig for us cause we have not thimk in the deep meaning of the words we use
Whay means professional?
What means marketing, not the superficial meaning, but the deepest meaning
To Einstein the word "light" shur did not have the samemeaning to you or me
He studied all his life the deepest of the deepest of the deepest meaning of that word
An you always can go deeper
Scientists are todat going very further woth tha Large Hadron Collider (LHC)
We need to go to the deepest meaning of Network, of Marketing, and Professional
If you are reading this, goto the meaning, the deepest one you can afford, of this 3 words

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I think we need a long way to go to become the industry PRO.
First of all we must understand the meaning, the deepest like Sofocles would do.
Afer that I think we need to elevate the social peception of the industry
Eri, your daily lessons are awesome, the first steps of a new social respectable industry

This is what I think:

We will never be a respectable industry untill we have enough respectable INSTITUTIONAL BULIDINGS
MLM industry has not institutional buidings like other industries have.
Doctors have university buildings, clinics and hospitals
Lawyers have courthouses and universities.
Politics have the congress and some similar buildings
Catholic church has the Vatican and all his chuchs, cathedrals and other buidings
This institutional buildings are social proof in front of the eyes of everyone OUT OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS
So, may be a bad profesional lawyer (and they exist) is socially percieved with the building of his university behind.
May be he is a bad lawyer, but not the university, Cambridge, for example.
Is not the same credibility if he is a lawyer from a cheap unknown university or if you went to Cambridge.
I am architect of the oldest and best university here in Chile, and that opens doors, cause people percieve you with the building behind. Of course when I say the building, is attached wtih a huge organization, well studio programs, a log ethic untouchable ethic story, etc.
But do you think I learn in the university?
NO
I learn with my architects menthors, the best three architects offices here. I work witrh them some yaeras before I start my own office.
Real world is very different from college. But ONLY you can go to a menthor UNTILL you sent 5 yars studying in a university.
In the future, prospects will go to university before joining the company who has more PRO people.
Social proof, buildings to teach people..
McDonald has a university
Circ du Soleil has a university
They have special buildings to practice all their incredible skills
I am not saying this cause I am architect. I say it cause I know human behviour.

I will develop this ideas:

I read the book of Mike, Magnetic Sponsoring and I think is ONE of the missing links
I like the posture of this:
SAY NO TO THE NEXT 5 PROSPECTS, something like:
"Sorry, but you are not cualified to be my partner"
This changes all the picture for that prospect and distributor, and exponentially, for all the industry
Is not the same "please join me" like no professionals do, instead of the prospects saying:
"please, let me join you"
In other field, is like when some engineer postulate to a job in 3M
3M is not runing after anyone, they are interviewing profesionals
Is your docitor calling evey thay asking "please let me check your heart, FREE"
NO
MLM antiprofresional behaviour is the virus we must all eliminate

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I think there is no an "old school" or " new school"
Thay are just manu UNMEANING SCHOOLS, I mean we don know the deep meaning of thw words we use
Also cause they are many olds and news, as leadeers they are, like Jim Rohn and Mike Dillard, and not all of them knows the deep meaning, and some who they know, they dont know how to teach them.
We have to look the deep meaning and the escentials.
We have to go deeper in the deepest meaning to discover the deepest meanings, of old and new leaders.
Jim Rohn says that if a guy from McDonald wistles, they pay him one more dollar just by whistle
he add value to the market place
the same thing is saying Mike
be more valuable to the market place
so you see. both are talking the same esentials, the same deep meaning

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This industry started with no profesionals 60 years ago, posisionated in a non profesional field
Just go out to neighbors and family and sell them shampoo
Door to door sales people, pushing sales, etc ( not PRO people, like doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects)
Those fists MLM leaders, not one of them went to a MLM university, they just were like Jim Rohn, a farm boy from Idaho (I love Jim Rohn)
Jim Rohn learned all from a non PRO guy, just like Jim, so good as Jim, who get out of school at 14 years old
This informal semi-autodidactic way of learning I think is the better way to do things, but for social perception, is nothing. For social perception and credibility, only huge institutional buidings matters.
Can you imagine the Pope without his hut, clothes and with no Vatican institutional buildings?
NO, all that ceremonies, buidings are institutions that are social proof to people
Le Courbusier was a french architect who never went to university, but, some university give him the title after he worked 30 years as one, doing incredible buiddings in the 50s and 60s
He did not went to college, but he was better than all of them. Exceptional man, an exception of the rule.
Professionals is a social perception concept, needs institutionals buildings.
Profresional knowledge is available only in institutional buildings like universities, and PRO people like a doctor cannot study by his own in his house or the street, as a MLM can. If he is not Le Corbusier, he needs an institution, with a big institutinal building, with a curricular net, prestige eachers and scientific method of teaching.

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MLM industry is social percieved not PRO, and it is true, cause HOW people learn. There is low method or not at all. It is out of the scientific method, used in the teaching way of universities. We are not percieved PRO cause there is not a MLM generic university, (or something like that)
Cambridge and Oxford has more than 300 hundreds years of experience in teaching, using scientific methods, a step by step process: first year mathematics I, seconf year, matematics II, algebra I, algebra II, algebra II, and so.
If you are not good in algebra I, you can´t go to algebra II, and so.
I have made classes in the best university here, and there is a solid curricular system, to assure the students learn what they have to learn.
There is a method, PRE established to assure that professional wiil learn all the skills he must know to practice, for example to calculate the resistance of a 100 floor buiding.
The institution and teaching method assures that engineer to have the skills to calculate that building, cause is not a joke if the building comes down with the first storm wind.
You can not say "if the building falls, it does not matters, just keep on doing it and you will learn"
NO, but that is what excatly MLM no PRO people do
And a doctor cannot say "well this is my 3º dead, but I have learn a lot in the way, I will keep on going killing people"
NO, but MLM not PRO do, they run after friends, family an anybody to push them in
In our industry, we dont learn professional, and we dont work professional, YET.
If somebody fails, he just loose some dollars, but his sponsors says "I will keep on going, this is a game of numbers"
And that is true, absolutly true.
But the guy who failed will be the best antipropaganda for our businnes
I think the exponential effect of what this man who failed ( cause he did nothing and he is justs frustrated and angry with himself) he will put bad seed everywere to our industry
I think if a buiding of 100 floors como down cause the engineer did a bad job, somebody who falls in MLM causes more damage. This lazy guy now is talking bad (one more to the list).
Can we say that the cause is only of him? Yes and no. The inmature MLM not PRO industry is the cause Nº 1.
The lack of credible intitutional buildings is the problem. If a student go out of Harvard, nobody will believe that student if he says: "Harvard is just a secenario, is a scam, that is why iI did not finish my studies"
But because we dont have institutional buildings, a lazy frustrated waitress can talk to everybody why MLM industry is a scam.
A friend of mine that I play rugby with, when I show him my opportunty, he said to me: "oh no, I dont want nothuing to know about scams, look Madoff"
I didnot pre aproach in the right way
He compared me with Madoff, can you believe that?
Money has his own institutional buildings, banks, wall street, etc.
But the ironic thing is the people in MLM who called themselves professionals, thay are, cause they are having results, BUT, they are not professionals in the way they teach. It is not a method like a university has. And the worst part, one more time: no intitutional buildings.
We will never be percieve like profesionals, no matter if we are or not, UNTILL, we make a serious effort to have a generic scientific method, who any beginner could study in a magestic institutional building. I think the Network Marketing University is the next step. May be Amway can do the first step to build a huge institutional building.
Why not a MLM campus with different universities, were the advanced students can go?
That campus would be a huge proof to the world, adn it can be advertised by Natgeo or discopvery chanell
Can you imagine that?
Not only Donald Trump, taht owns a MLM, but also Warren Bafet, (I read he owns three MLM) and he in a fundamental investor.
I am shure Donald and Warren will analize a good idea. And also Kiyosaki.
And Donald has just bought one MLM, and he loves to build, cause he is in the real estate industry.
I am imaging that MLM campus
INCREDIBLE a tribute to Jim Rohn
We need institutional well prestige buildings
And Donald like to thing big.
What we are waiting for?
Come on guys, speak to your friends, to Glen, Nathan, Randy,
We will see that campus someday
And it will come, sooner or later it will.
Also we need thinkers, out of the industry, marketing people, psicologist, economist and so.
I think MLM is a model of the future.

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Kiyosaki said in an interviwe in Yoputube "If you are not in this business you are out of business". Period.
This ex rugby player isnot kidding. He is worry about what is coming to the economy.
He was talking for the days to come in the bigest depression in history that now is beginning.
Also, just like Nathan Ricks said: MLM model is the more efficient industry cause nobody cant hide, and also because wih internet and technology, the prosumer concept, joining producer and consumer in one word, is inevitable, cause the traditional model of distribution in gonna die. Retail this year is begining to die.
I feel we are near the tipping point for the industry, and this large depression will help.
Bu we have to go PRO, as you say Eric.
You are doing a wonderfull job, but we have to join foces, help the world
As MLM pioners we have a huge responsability for the future of the world. Not kidding.
To do that, the first thing we all distributors must do, is say NO to the next five suspects
And stop running hunting people.
That will change our attitud or posture.
We need to understand why we have to be proud to be in this industry.
But , once again, all networkers PRO we need to start imaging generic knowledge institutions, MLM Universities runned with people insdide and outside of the industry, with people with big social credibility, like Donald Trump, Warrent Baffet an Robert Kiyosaki.
I studied architecture, and the law gives me the power to sign ( and be reponsable) for the buildings I design, BUT
Why I am doing MLM PRO?
Simple, I want to be freeI want passive income
So, Eric, I hope you catch the idea, we need institutions, real generic, ethical institutions.
I read Donald Trump last book "Why we want you to be rich" he wrote with Robert Kiyosaki. Both of them are concern of the future of the economy. The middle class is gonna disapear, they say, and I KNOW IT IS GONNA BE TRUE.
So to be PRO is a challenge for ALL OF US give the middle class a choice of wealth.
Hope I could see sometime Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump in ypur show talking abou the next MLM campus
Why not?
As Henry Ford said: "if you think is possible or not, in bth cases you are right"
We can think big and choose
We are here to think big
Once more, tahnk you very much Eric and special thanks to Mike
Arch. Juan Carlos Torrico
Santiago de Chile

Password brings back a lot of good memories, especially on the road with the family and playing in the car. Pooland snooker with my Dad - who always beat me - is another one. As Dad used to say, the sign of a good pool player is the sign of a misspent youth. As for you and Mike, Eric, is there a lot of subtext to this interview or am I reading too much into it, based on my own beliefs and your teachings. Everyone in the network marketing profession should watch it, especially those who think there is an easy, point and click, 'magnetic way' to building your business. Thanks, again...

It all boils down to building posture and a prosperity mindset. Remember that prospects raise objections because subconsciously they want to test us - to see whether we are really leaders, and confident in ourselves and our opportunity, or whether we are pretending to be confident, and cave when they start raising their objections. This is very important for new network marketers to keep in mind when they talk to their prospects. Thank you for articulating it so clearly! :)

Absolutely awesome. I like the way you're grilling him Eric! Full credit to Mike also - everything he has said so far really is congruent with his Magnetic Sponsoring program.

Really impressive.

Eric, I just wish you had detailed a little more on what you have seen on that corporate executive so we could analyse the value you got from him.

Mike, gives us a smile...

QOTD: I was thinking for a while and I couldn't find a best game. I liked them all. In fact, the opportunity to go out to the street and play with my friends, whatever game it was, it was good enough for me. I just loved playing with my friends, period :)!

Love you all
Alfredo Rodrigues

Another excellent series. I have to view this over again... my mind wandered and that means something ...

Finding world class people ... one needs to be world class themselves or willing to become one.

QOTD: A bunch of kids on a deserted lot playing baseball all summer long. When the 'dinner' bells began ringing at 5pm the game ended.

Everyday I watch your videos Eric and honestly I can say that what you have sharing with us is priceless. I get something good from every episode.
Thank you Eric for your help and support. I'm not going to quit no mater what.
QOTD: one of my favourite games was " hide and seek"

Value ! People join people they like - when they have something to offer that will benefit them. Being able to show someone an opportunity and HOW to market it a two fold deal. People do not know how to market - being able to teach that makes them money faster than it used too.

Objections are hard to learn to deal with - and people will lose their posture immediately. Learn what makes you valuable to them.

Following people who have already stepped up and made a mark in this industry helps you learn.

Thank you for being that icon that teaches!

I'd like you to ask Mike how he can be such a proponent of network marketing yet be affiliated with an organization (namely Carbon Copy Pro) that bashes MLM using the infamous 'coffee house' letter to build themselves up? Don't get me wrong, I like Mike and he's done some great things I just find it hypocritical. I know that many people feel the same way and are looking for an answer. I'm sure as smart as Mike is that there must be one??

I agree Corey, and after reading Mike's replies at http://www.betternetworker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16630#p16630 that Eric posted below, I too wonder why it is that any self respecting 'marketer' in any profession has to slam another system or program to make theirs look more inviting.
Then by trying to justify that kind of tactic by saying, in Mike's own words: "This is marketing. This is sales. I'm a distributor on the front lines just like everyone else, and I will do everything in my power as a marketer, to share my opinion and views in the most persuasive manner possible", seems to me that one will stoop really low to try to get the sale.

That, in my opinion, is not what Network Marketing is really about and any wonder we have industry knockers with this kind of behavior going on.

And one more point: Mike is teaching others that this kind of marketing is OK.
Now that's scary. . . .

Hey Corey,

Here are Mike's answers...

http://www.betternetworker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16630#p16630

That is an excellent question Corey. Mike never bashes MLM in his work but you're right about the Carbon Copy Pro and their negativity to MLM. I would be very interested to hear what Mike thinks about that too but as the interview will already have been done I'm not sure that we will! Eric perhaps you can follow him up lol?!!

Eric, this show is really nice, first you have a young guy on your interview, I think many newcomers will see that it is not about age, but about attitude...

Also, the modelling part is crucial! I tell my downline, I cannot give you posture, that is something that will grow on you as you believe more in yourself and the opportunity, and I have seen it happen for some of them.

I am currently a vaccuum! sucking everything that is NM related, and building my knowledge foundation so I can process it and turn it into wisdom.

I am 89 for 89 in your shows!

Greatly appreciate it!

Federico

Mike's microphon eis too soft.

A Mike Dillard audio was among the first training audios I was exposed to when I first started learning network marketing. this interview has proven to be filled with million dollar nugets and I'm loving every min of it and really looking forward to tomorrows episode.

love watching the debate about "old school" and "new school" in the viewers comments too. great value there too.

oh and the QOTD: we used to play "wall ball". throw a ball (like a tennis ball or something) against a wall. you catch it, you throw it. if you touch it and don't catch it you'd better run and touch the wall before another kid picks it up and throws it as hard as they can at you before you touch the wall. very fun!

that and "knuckles" where you try to hit the top of your opponets hands before they move them. if you flinch 3 times you give opponet a "free hit". your hands will be red but again, fun times!

The slot racing cars. Setting it up took forever. once it was set up trying to keep the cars on the track was near impossible for an 5-8 year old. so i did the next best thing and crashed them on purpose... Until my dad and uncle kicked me off and took over the controls... The magnetic football game was cool too.

Awesome! I love this episode. You're right about what this show is doing. I'm "sucking all the value" out of the two of you, and "modelling" you as well. ☺

QOTD: I don't what it was called, but when I was a kid, we used to play with trading cards. We'd stand them up on the floor (ground) against the wall and try to "flick" other cards at them . If you knocked one down you got to keep it.

I did that too.. you save your best cards for last....
it's called flipping cards..