Great perspective.
In every situation, good or bad, we should always learn something from it.

"Everything that you need is within you" this is a a great phrase. Thank you for your honesty, always.

Well said Eric!
QOTD: Well ... my craziest travel story will be :becoming a NMPRO!

Aloha and Excellent job once again Eric. I have been involved in the Network Marketing "Profession" for only nine months. I was very apprehensive at first about all the hype associated with the MLM business. I have slowly become aware that the same principles that make you successful in any business. Also apply to this business. Keep it real my friend. I am learning from every show. Looking forward to #100.

Troy Tanga

ohhh and I forgot this one:

QOTD: At the age of 17 I was on my first overseas travel and the destination was Singapore. I used roomservice quite frequently and one evening this guy who'd been on duty for the last two or three days asked me if I'd like to go out with him after his shift finished and maybe see some of the things in Singapore that tourists rarely see. Being in experienced and warned off ten thousand times before I went away my tourist trap alarms just blew sky high and I said "no sorry I have to sleep early" - but then after I returned home I started thinking...."what would really be the worst thing that could happen? After all he works at my hotel and I dont think he would risk his job over a few bucks....most likely he was just excited to finally see someone his own age (as the hotel primarely hosted business travellers)" - that was the timw I decided never again to make an opportunity or adventure pass by for nothing.

HI Eric,

As you know if you read my comment yesterday I was very offended by the fact that you brought Mike on this show, but okay I can see the point of your argumentation today. However I'm still not 100% satisfied and like pfuller I dont either buy the old school vs. new school ways of working. I belive it's about finding your own way of doing things. I do a mix, but I could not and would never work with anyone I had not met in real life, and in my mind Mike is still and un trustworthy imposter who brings this industry down. Heck maybe one day you could do a show about this!

I do not buy into the arguments about "Old School" verses "New School". I have met people who have made a small fortune by doing one or the other, or both. If you acquire the necessary skill set you can be successful either way.

In my opinion, I think many people who may be too introverted to do Network Marketing the traditional way can flourish online.

QOTD: It's a late night in Bangkok and I feel like some fruit to take back to the hotel. I am walking along Sukhumvit and I walk right into an elephant, just a small one, but much bigger than myself. The keeper would sell you fruit to give to the elephant, however this time he or she decided to frisk me all over and then steal my bag of fruit. Needless to say I did not get the fruit back.

Eric, well said!!!!

I think people need to worry more about what you can do to develop your business and help your team than looking what business other people are involved and question what business they are doing and the traffic they are generating on-line.

You said something during the interview that I tell everyone I speak to... it's bringing value!!! Bring value to people's lives and they will follow you. Learn how to become a leader!!! Personally, I am not a big fan of Magnetic Sponsoring but I recognize the fact that Mike is a great leader that is providing value to many people in the profession.

Eric, I want to thank you for all the value you bring to everyone. At times I may disagree with some of your views or comments but you are a great leader and provide tremendous value to the profession.

Thank you very much Eric , I agree that understanding the deep meaning of the substance behind words and best seller headlines is what really matters to move to succesfull action.
Mike's phrase " master one skill at a time" I think is the best.
Your show is invaluable
Regards
Juan Carlos Torrico, from Santiago de Chile

So the bottom line of all this is basically that MLM is for the "elite" few who pay the price and develop themselves and their skills to become "leaders". The other 98% will not make it to that level, and therefore become the "downline" to varying levels of success.

You are a smooth machine. Well said.

CSH
http://www.pd4free.com

I felt the same way Eric. As a student of both Magnetic Sponsoring and Network Marketing Pro, my goal is to continue to grow and learn as much as I can. Now just having completed my 2nd year in the industry, I can honestly say that your program is helping me grow into a much better leader.

Thanks!

Hi Eric, thanks again for all the hard work that benefits all in the NM industry. Watched all your interviews and they all have 'gold' to take away in each one.

Your last comment on interviewing greats in the industry. What a collection it would make if we had an interview with Tim Sales and Jim Rohn! Would also love you to interview Jeremy Stansfield.

Keep up the great work!

Blessings,
Kevin

My question is this? What company is Mike Dillard in? Or Ann Sieg? Or Mike Klingler or any of these other internet MLMers who have seemed to find success. You can never seem to find that out from any of their adds or anything like that. My guess is that they make more money selling their "ebooks" and subscriptions than they actually do in RESIDUAL orders from their respective MLMs. If they do make more selling their goods than in monthly re-orders, thats fine and it's their business, but it's not duplicatable for 99.9% of people who enter mlm. Anyways, just curious what companies they represent, and how many times they've switched companies in the last 3 years each?

Nick, it's my guess Mike is with Herbalife. I believe this because he states in a video he's number two in his company and goes on to say Magnetic sponsoring out performs ya...ya...ya and even Herbalife. Thus I guess Herbalife.

Paul

I did a little google searching. I found that Ann Sieg is with SendOutCards. Mike Dillard is with Carbon Copy Pro (aka Wealth Masters International), and couldn't find anything on Mike Klingler. Not sure if what i found is true, but thats what i found. I highly doubt he is number two in Herbalife. That company is 25+ years old and does in excess of 2.5 billion per year. He might make more than than the number 2 selling his magnetic sponsoring stuff, but not residual orders in his mlm.

An additional comment:

Please to go to alexa.com a website traffic measuring site. Enter magneticsponsoringonline.com Mike's site.

Then compare his site to any major MLM in terms of traffic. Only Avon beats Mike's site. How can a distributor generate more daily traffic than MLM companies? That shows the power and spread of Mike's philosophy in how to build a network marketing business.

It still takes work and effort. I'm certainly not in favor of everything Mike sells. However he's on the right track in terms of building a MLM business.

Hey Eric, good work.

However what you failed to bring out in the interview is Mike is number two in his company. He achieved that from what I know over the last 6 years or less. Mind you his company is almost 30 years old! How was that possible????

He develops hundreds of leads daily from his personal business Magnetic Sponsoring. That brand alone develops as much daily Internet traffic as major MLM's. That's a HUGE feat.

You talk about being a professional, I strongly suggest you go back and be a professional and interview Mike with detailed hard hitting questions! That's what professionals do. They know who and why they're interviewing a person.

Your approach in not much different than a prospect looking at an MLM and saying "I know that doesn't work."

Your approach as you pointed out, you did no prep work, sure you found three common points 1) move beyond fear 2) brand 3) specialize.

Mike has generated more than $7,000,000 in sales since 2005 from his Magnetic Sponsoring program!

There is a HUGE difference between Old School & New School. You would have seen that if you had been a professional and done your home work on Mike. Instead you brushed him off as many brush off MLM as a profession.

Mike has a TEAM of people that build his businesses and generate daily leads. How many leaders in MLM do you know have a team that help them build that are paid a salary and not part of the MLM team??? Not many.

Search Eric Worre on Google Results 1 - 10 of about 19,200

Search Mike Dillard on Google results are 1 - 10 of about 521,000

Search Ann Sieg Results 1 - 10 of about 574,000

Search Randy Gage Results 1 - 10 of about 124,000

The point I'm trying to make is Ann Sieg and Mike Dillard over the last few years have made a
huge contribution to the profession of network marketing. They deserve in depth interviews to get to the truth
of how to succeed in MLM. It's certainly not make a list of friends & family members! Yes, there will be core values that all successful people have in them. Dig deeper! Because after all is said and done 97% of people still fail in MLM and many more will new join again.

One last point, your Network Marketing Pro shows are "New School." <grin>

Thanks for all you do.

Hey Paul,

I'm sorry you didn't think I was professional in my approach. I did it very openly and purposely without an agenda. Your post seems to imply that I went in saying Mike is a fraud and angled the interview to make that case. If you'll look again, I think you'll see differently.

But since you raised a bunch of specific points, let me address each one:
- Number 2 in his company. Earning how much in commissions?
- Selling $7 million dollars worth of programs since 2005. Fantastic. Mike is a phenomenal businessman. But the truth is, in the same period of time I've done about $200 million in sales.
- Google search. Those are facts. But that's not my business. Moving my network marketing products is my business.
- One of the reasons I've focused on having the million dollar per year earners on almost exclusively is to show you and everyone else that "making a list of friends & family members" and contacting & inviting them professionally using 3rd party resources is one of the foundational elements that allows us to duplicate. In my view, the online stuff can in fact help you build a brand and attract some recruits, but it's extremely hard to duplicate... and duplication leads to freedom.

Look, I have no ax to grind with Mike or Ann or anyone else who truly cares about helping people become more successful in their Network Marketing careers. As I mentioned in this episode, while I wouldn't personally use some of the attention grabbing headlines in order to attract interest and make sales, I completely respect their right to do it.

All in all, I don't think I brushed Mike off. I thought he brought value to our community, I consider him a friend and I'd welcome him in the future.

Thanks for your thoughtful post Paul.

Hope I didn't sound defensive (or at least not TOO defensive) :)

Eric

Hey Eric, I appreciate you replying.

>>>Your post seems to imply that I went in saying Mike is a fraud and angled the interview to make that case. If you'll look again, I think you'll see differently.<<<

No, I don't think you think Mike is a fraud.

It would have been great if you had read Magnetic Sponsoring prior to the interview.

Please review Ann's program prior to that interview. I think what you'll find is a new approach
to an old problem how do I recruit more than 2 or 3 people. What do I do after my warm markets runs dry.

That's where we are today with new school marketing. Helping people that never could succeed with old school marketing.

When you have a chance look at Mike's video's in his 7 day course. That has generated thousands of leads for us average networker's.

Thanks for this great program.

Paul

Eric, I just love NWM Pro ! I watch you every day .. I look forward to every episode - every time I see your daily post in my mail, it brings a smile to my face and it beholds a positive emotional support ! As I got today's post from you about Randy's new book I thought that was your post for today .. and although I am a Randy - fan and am interested in all he brings to us as well, I felt I missed seeing you in person and in movement in front of the cam .. it really makes a difference to me .. so I was positively surprised to get this post a bit later ..

I just made Presidents Club here in Germany last month - and I broke TWO ranks at once by doing that .. and NWM Pro had a definate part in this .. thanks Eric .. (and a special note to your father's day post, which I had'nt commented yet: I feel to have noticed that this was a very intimate, emotional post from your side .. it really moved me and I had to show this post to my fiance, Andrea, who was equally touched .. It was a great post. Not about NW marketing directly .. but it displayed human qualities that made me proud to be associated to you (though far away) and to NWM .. thank you for letting me into your world so closely .. - it made me proud .. ) Kind regards, Mark.

Fear of the unknown is what probably caused me to take a dislike to Mike Dillard, in so far as some of his ad copy belittles the very industry that Mike is a part of, in my opinion, and not knowing the substance behind all that was really stupid on my part. Judging solely on the face of the brand. BIG lesson there.
Now that I know what stands behind it, some his strategies still bother me from a professional standpoint however there are far too many potential positive outcomes that one must suck it up and respect the guy.
Thanks for bringing it out so clearly Eric. And thank you Mike for again showing me and countless others that personal development builds character and character inevitably builds business.
What struck me was that how many would go out and get a job they hate in order to be better at the thing that is holding them back. Then again, how many would actually acknowledge that something is holding them back in the first place to cause them to go out and actually do something about it.
I know I have not at times. Just goes to show who really wants it goes out and gets it, no matter what it takes.

Waiting for show 100 you big tease :)

Great stuff, Eric, especially the finale: "We do have a better way". QOTD: Not Crazy, but most awesome was a 2-week visit to Guatamala. My first contact with third world life made me appreciate the freedom and security in which I live in the Netherlands. Number 2 - it made me appreciate the people there who find joy (they are mostly happy, kind people), fulfilment, interest, love in the difficult circumstances under which they live. Certainly a lesson in life.

Indeed, @ericworre fundamentals don't change. The principles that make network marketing a more and more relevant and viable plan b ARE fundamental - no less than the "...habits of successful people" that you talk about.
So, you're right. There isn't much difference at the top, and as far as providing a motivational self improvement framework - it's all the same: from Amway to Zango, from Agel to Oxyfresh. Same difference - none.

But the winds of change are in the air, and a good thing they are, because stagnation and death would have been the alternative. The Network Marketing Profession is evolving, and Mike Dillard is one of the primary catalysts.
If you could bring Randy Gage and Ann Sieg for a debate....I'm sure that the result would be mutually beneficial and the biggest beneficiaries would be your audience.

Ann Sieg & Randy Gage debate... Hmmmmm

Eric...love these series with Mike Dillard...great job! Now craziest travel story?...PRobably the one where I was in Orlando 8/4/01 at my network marketing company convention...as a leader we usually had private dinners post event..but this time.at the very last moment I jumped on one of the 50 buses that had been arranged for a corporate trip to MGM Disney ...there was a man at the front of the bus...by himself.. our eyes met...we hung out all evening doing the kid and fantasy stuff...the August storms were horrific..we were soaked to the skin...Fantasia cancelled..and we fell in love..people often ask how a single business woman from Toronto and a recently widowed educator rom Minneapolis could possibly meet? Though network marketing of course...and the magic of Disney. A magical combination of 2 places where dreams really do come true!

Good recap Eric. Success comes in all forms and shapes. We should all learn from others who have accomplished what we are wanting to accomplish .

QOTD: Travelling to Ireland with my whole family. We tried to save money and booked a flight on Aero-flot ( ?? spelling) airlines. People were tellling me that there would be stray barn animals tied to the seats and wondering in the aisles... i laughed along with them.
When we boarded the flight - there were others who were already on the flight and were quite drunk. Large men speaking a language I had not ever heard, and very loud. There was fog / smoke coming out from the a/c vents. We were told it's condensation from being in Florida ( humidity outside ?? ) My dad looked nervous as hell , my mom started to fidget as we sat down and buckled up in our seats... But , once the water started dropping down on our heads from the air vents above our seats, we all started to laugh ... We were in for a long flight - one that we were thankful made it all the way to Ireland. Great trip and Great memories !

Great interview although I disagree with you Eric slightly in your opinion that there aren't a lot of differences between Mike and what other leaders of the traditional group teaches. Let me clarify...

From a philosophy and an attitude standpoint, I agree completely with you Eric. There really isn't much of a difference between Mike and some of the other leaders who go with a more traditional approach. However from an action standpoint, there is a HUGE difference!

Traditional leaders teach to make a list of everybody that you know.
Mike teaches that this is a waste of time and that you need to have your prospects come to you.

Traditional leaders teach that everybody is your prospect.
Mike teaches that only people involved in network marketing already are your prospects.

Traditional leaders teach mostly offline techniques for prospecting.
Mike teaches online techniques for prospecting.

Traditional leaders focus on strategies that will help you to build your primary network marketing opportunity.
Mike teaches that you need to market information products in addition to your primary opportunity.

While 80% of the business is philosophy and attitude and Mike and the other guys are pretty much aligned here, 20% of the business is how to's and concepts and in this area, there are dramatic differences.

QOTD - My wife and I were traveling back from Trinidad and she got stopped at customs. It turns out that they were looking for someone with the same first and last name as my wife. Fortunately, the person they were looking from is from Illinois and my wife has never been to Illinois.

Been following your show for so long and now...finally I get my answer on about "New School" and "Old School" stuff. Thank you!!!

Looking forward to #100

I am a little unclear on the distinction old school/new school. The only school I appreciate is the 'won' where people deliver on their promises and provide more value than they charge. I agree the essentials of success are the same. I may not like or appreciate or support others intended results. The tools and distinctions they use to accomplish those results are, as you said, not much different. What actually works is constant. Sometimes the message one person has is better passing through someone's filters than someone else’s message. If you are interested in having others lead people the more ways you have to say what needs to be heard the better off you and your listeners will be.

QOTD: In the mid 80's I was on a plane that lost an engine [the plane had a reaction] and we had an unscheduled emergency landing. While we waited for another plane to arrive in the middle of nowhere another unscheduled plane landed. We were all in dress miliary uniform and so were they. Ours was US and they were Soviet Union. Interesting afternoon and evening keeping a couple hundred high testosterone types apart where there was no place to be apart. And nothing happened. Our mutual planes arrived and we went our separate ways.

It is always good to hear your thoughts on how the interview went. Mike is not for every one - but the three points
"FSV" are so true
1. Face your fear
2. Pick a skill
3. Bring value

I look forward to your other interviews.- I watch you every day and love it more all the time.

(QOTD): I’m getting ready to go on a worldwide trip. What’s your craziest travel story?
Before GPS - there were many - LOL - thank goodness that has slowed down in getting lost. Crazy was trying to get on a train in Austria with ski's - poles - and non rolling suit case - the other was getting in a taxi in New York from one side of the airport and telling the guy I am in a hurry. I think we did super sonic speed down the side walks but he got me there in plenty of time. I will never do that again...LOL

Eric, the interview with Mike was low key, covering the similarities within the industry, but did not get into the differences which are major and would have been a real blowout. As you said in the last video, typical ad copy in new school is not a plus for the industry and in most cases is way overboard (usually outrageous claims). Mike was probably the most recognizable name in new school and was a good interview. Would have liked to see more in depth questions, but its your show and it did provided good content.
I am looking forward to # 100 and it has been a long time since you mentored me at PPL, you have always led by example. Thanks for everything and keep up the good work!

This has been a great resource of NM information for me.

It has been also a big motivational program so I can go on and face all bumps on the road about this profession and the only reason why is because you have been interviewing several types of people with diferent background and diferent approaches about this profession.

One may agree more with one approach than the other but isn´t this what is it all about? being diferent and acting diferent and even though have success?

Is Mike right? Is he wrong?

Who cares?

Study everybody, try to understand everybody and then make your one judgement to yourself.

I didn´t like Mike´s atitude, but he is having much more success than me, so who am I to judge him?

Way to go, Mike. I am not a fan, but I really respect your achievaments!

And by the way...

I love you all :)
Alfredo Rodrigues

I am a follower of Mike Dillards and his content and training has done so much for my search engine -and my downline in MIB I surf a bit to get free Traffic and grow my down line. Your video is wonderful; please share more content I love it. Learning to earn is my moto and I stick by it.

I have to tell you Eric I am not a big fan of Mikes because of his "provocative" copyright which comes up in almost any search you do about any MLM product or service, that said the guy has some useful knowledge that can be be used by the rest of us. FYI his own students use his marketing tactics against him so as to push their products. Your still the best thank you for all the hard work you put into these interviews.

Once again, I'm much more impressed with people that have actually built a downline organization than those peddling tools to our industry. Anyone can post e-books, and coaching online. Personally I think these people are parasites. Sorry for being blunt. Unfortunately our industry is littered with ATANA people (all talk and no action). They want to tell you how to get rich in network marketing, yet they haven't ever done it themselves. The interviews with my friend Mark Yarnell, Todd Smith, Randy Gage, & training with Eric are all great because I know they have actually built big businesses - however with some of these other folks - I'm still scratching my head. In any event - this is a valuable resource and thanks Eric for all you do.

Not sure if you are referring to Mike here Rick, but Mike has been involved in several network marketing opportunities. I know he was a 100K in Xango and he's currently the #2 income earner in his current company.

That said, I appreciate your feedback and honest opinions. :)

I think there's value in both groups... the people who've done it and the people who've studied it. Like you, I'd rather listen to those who have done it but if that was all anyone listened to, very few would get an education. There is room in the world for teachers and professors. I think that's true for our Universities, for Personal Development and for Network Marketing.

Well said Eric! Also some of the people who study it articulate it better than some of the people who have done it. That's why there is value in both groups.

Ageloclady- "fork in the eye..." hehehe.

I wanted to see more of a debate included in the "self-changing" discussion. I understand the principles of gaining skills and becoming more of a leader, but what was the point of having Mike Dillard on there if you weren't going to talk about the DIFFERENCES between the approaches?

Mike Dillard has quite a bit to say on that topic (that's how you sell books), so I thought I was going to see Eric Worre take him on. I kept waiting for it.....

Yeah, I originally planned to go there but two things happened. First, the interview just took on a different theme and second, it got hot as hell and I felt we were both going to puddle up even more than we already were. In reality though, there isn't much difference in what actually works. However, there is a big difference in how it's promoted (sold) to others.

you make sense [i could almost say the first one i hear that makes sense] you are humble enough to think and it is a pleasure to hear what you have to say - in other words: THANK YOU, dani

Dani, you're more than welcome

It's January 1984. I'm a recent college graduate traveling around in Europe visiting friends. After a stopover in a Hamburg suburb, I get on a train to head up to Turku, Finland. When I arrive in Stockholm, I realize that I didn't plan on an overnight stayover. Oops. So, I'm walking around in the train station at 10 o'clock in the evening and hear this guy speaking English with an accent. He's on the phone trying to find a hostel to stay in. What do I do? Why, I walk up to the total stranger -- a Brit -- and ask him if I can tag along to the hostel he found! To this day I haven't told my parents about that stupid move! Bon voyage, Eric!

Oh God, please don't let my daughter ever do that... please don't let my daughter ever do that...

Personally, this interview couldn't be finished soon enough. I'd rather stick a fork in my eye than listen to him. That being said, I appreciate all you do here at NWMPRO. I've been along for the ride since the second or third week. It's when I first heard about it and followed ever since. I've gotten so much out of it.

QOTD: My craziest story/stories would take way too much space here. From Athens Greece to Graceland. The laughter is in the details from throwing up on the side of a ship, to not being able to find the highway on-ramp, to getting separated at Disneyworld. When you've reached my age, there are simply too many stories to tell. Ahhh, the memories. LOL

Thanks for being honest and thanks for being with me for so long. All the interviews won't suit everyone, but hopefully there's a way to get value from all of them. I appreciate you.