NMPRO #227 – John Milton Fogg Interview 2 of 4

January 26th, 2010 Email This


For the past 20+ years, Mr. John Milton Fogg has interviewed some of the greatest Networkers in the World.  Today we discuss some of the common themes from those interviews.  What do you think of his conclusions?

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  • aliceflanders
    I went out today passing books. Today is a Saturday and the temperature was close to 100 degrees. That is very hot in Maine. I found a helper and a possible recruit.
  • heatherbrocklehurst
    Excellent! John Fogg is outstanding.
  • wealthandriches
    1. Success requires working hard. Tell the story, tell the story and tell the story. Share with the same passion weather it's one person or one hundred.
    2. Prospect and work the business even if you don't "feel" like it.
  • Skipping to the Complete & Uncut episode...but wanted to make sure I complete the challenge and make a comment! ;-)
  • It might be the recording but I get a very uncomfortable feeling watching John. And I don't hear much that creates an 'Aha' feeling.
  • Dylan Cooper
    It's all like being in a show. I like that. The audience changes but it might be the first time they have seen the show so you must go through the play with all the enthusiasm and excitement as if you've never done it before.
  • yitz613
    We can work hard or we can work our play hard and I prefer the latter.
  • What many people don't realize is that this is a business and like any other business it takes work. I like the way John Milton Fogg explains it....You must work, even when you don't want to, so that you will reach the goals you set for yourself.....
  • meagankellytorres
    Like an actor in a broadway play... what a perfect analogy. We must tell the story and transfer belief as if it's the first time we've done it. And repeat.... As we know from Shakespeare "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players" Leaders just get out and share the story more...
  • Calvin Boutilier
    I owe I owe, so off to work we go! Let's get it done!
  • Luis (Pelon)
    We are convinced to work hard on this proyect of life.
  • cmattern
    Yes, they don't always tell you about the 'hard work' when you sign up. But, the repetitivity can easily work in your favor, 'cause once you get it figured out, you just have to keep doin' it. Just keep on, keepin' on!
  • You get out what you put into it...
  • Elaine Baril
    Like a Broadway Show; whether it's in front of a half full or full audience, the performance is the same... Excellent!!!!!
  • Dylan Cooper
    Yes, hard work! It keeps coming up! This business is not a get rich quick scheme. It takes hard work like everything else. I was chatting with my upline and sideline today. We were talking about how actually it's more a discipline. It is something you need to do all the time.

    Dylan (UK)
  • JON FORTI
    WORK YOUR BUTT OFF, DO THINGS OTHERS WON'T . JUST DO IT !!!
  • Damijan81
    I really liked the idea of the broadway musical, give it the same way if it in front of a few or in front of many.
  • BobbyRay
    I'm a musician and you have to tell yourself that these people have never heard you before so you need to give 100 percent every night!!
  • Vonnita2010
    THE BROADWAY ANALOGY WAS AMAZING, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION TO HALF THE AUDIENCE THE SAME WAY THAT YOU GIVE IT TO THE FULL AUDIENCE IS A MUST, MEANS THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE, THE ENERGY, BELIEF, EFFORT, COMMUNICATION, HAS TO BE THE SAME... EVEN IF THERE ARE ONLY PILLOWS!!!
  • Jeroen Lingier
    Great analogy with the broadway actors: Be equally passioned, no mather who and no mather how many listen to you!
    From Belgium/ flanders, this is jeroen lingier
  • CINDYSU
    I haven't seen significant success yet with this business, but then I have to honestly say, I have never worked really hard. For things to change, I have to change. I am going to show myself how hard I can work!
  • Great perspective from John on being a *professional* as Eric advocates.
    Tell the story, transfer belief. Repeat :-)
    I won't forget a home meeting I did with one prospect. She became one of my best customers and third party testimonial
  • pech
    Great conclusions. That is why it is so important to be well prepared and know what to do and say.
  • robbinsaturniewicz
    I like thinking of this type of work as the star of a play !! Perform daily
  • travelprohawaii
    I see that dedication and consistency are key.
  • Shovers
    Wow, that really hit home. Practice makes perfect. I watched a documentary once about, if it is talent or just tons of practice for everything from playing a violin to being Michael Jordan on the basketball court. Muscle memory! Exercising the muscle over and over and over. Practice until receiving perfection. What a concept, Thanks!
  • classy70sgirl
    I love the analogy that NM is likea Broadway play.
    I'll keep this in mind when I prospect!
    Thanks again!
    Classy70sgirl
  • Jay VanNostrand
    have to step out of your comfort zone..and lead through the consistency of your actions
  • Carlos Perez
    Working hard, telling the story, over and over. it is the consistant of the business
  • drkay
    You do it for the sake of doing it. Like preaching, you're doing it for an audience of One.
  • Jessi
    Yes, it's not as glamourous as it seems...
  • It is not the work that is hard - it is doing it costantly, being "online" all the time for your people, for your prospects, it is full and unlimited dedication to your business that is really hard and not everybody can accept it.
  • mspaulamc
    I actually gave several presentations to my stuffed animals and have recommended and taught that too! LOL
  • John Boyd
    Just downloaded the book.
  • AdvocareJax
    It is always a great reminder to look for more ways to work harder and more efficiently.
  • Step out of the comfort zone and become a leader.
  • Vange01
    Eric, thanks because this part reminds me about something really important: PASSION about what you are doing.
  • happyhealthybob
    The leader thing is key!!!! you want to make your down line feel inspired, cleaning up your contact list at 2 in the morning is hard, but you can sleep when you get to quit your job
  • jeanalbert
    Network marketing IS HARD WORK! Leaders do whatever it takes, even when they don't really feel like doing it.
  • smreed
    practise as much as you can so you can produce the best presentation you can and it will just keep on getting better. Practise to whom ever will listen..... your kids, your pets ;) and even the pillows as John did. I like that!
  • ronaldvandomburg
    I'm afraid John is right: working hard is key for a real professional. I remember the profile of Lance Armstrong and how he prepares for the Tour the France....
    how does that relate to the dream of creating complete freedom in your life?
  • Arnold Thompson
    wow
  • SJ Doug
    Ok Eric I haven't watched a video in 3 days so I guess I have disqualified myself for the hundred day contest but I am still going to watch all of the videos and comment on all of them.
    I like this video about working hard because I have asked myself that questions a hundred times before, what are you guys talking about when you are talking about working hard. John's analogy of the performer is a very good one, that explenation has finally connected with me!
  • drkay
    You can get caught up and you are still in the run. Go back and watch and comment on the ones you have missed.
  • SJ Doug
    Well I have been doing that I and I am caught up.
    I assumed to remain current though that I had to do this on a daily basses.

    Good news!

    Thanks,


    Doug Smith
    (SJ Doug)
  • susanjohannesson
    Make everybody feel like they really "can do this" and your business will go up high.
  • susanjohannesson
    Yes, to focus more on the ordinary people than the heroes; this is a "working class business".
  • susanjohannesson
    Working hard doing those simple steps without stoping until reaching your goal!
  • I really like the Broadway play analogy and Eric's description of hard work in terms of the repetitive nature of our profession.
  • seija
    Interesting analogy: Broadway show
  • mrmauriocrawford
    OMG...they practice 100 hours. Reminds me The Outliers book. We gotta do the same thing to build up our skills too.

    Go Eric.
  • julie67
    More terrific information. Thanks Eric and John!
  • pickertn
    Thank you for drilling the basics again and again into us. perfecting these basics will set us free, but are not easy to stay consistent to.
  • gkamlm
    John does us a favor by making sure to tell us he never met a leader who wasn't a hard worker.
  • Inger
    Work your butt off even if it's a simple business.
    If you want to be pro you get on the stage if you feel like it or not...
    And just like great performers in other things, sports or actors, we need to repeat the show over and over again.
  • Gustavo Munoz - Colombia
    great interview
  • Agneta Rebo
    Like the analogy. We have to do a great performance no matter how many are listening.
  • klmwahbiz
    "If you want this thing to work, you have to work this thing you want" - Michael Clouse....one of my favorite quotes. This interview just proves the point even more. Keep up the great work Eric.
  • hint: Work you butt off has been a theme of every million dollar earner interviewed.
  • cherisizzles
    I love the analogy of being in a Broadway production!
  • DianaValdez
    Work your but of, hard work.
    Get the job done wheteryou feel like it or not.
    (Give meetings to the pillows, lol)
  • jean_albert
    Leaders are workers, including no-shows. Consistency, again, again, & again. Thanks Eric
  • great interview. Practice makes perfect. I liked the broadway play analogy. Never show you are tired and do the same thing over and over again as though it was the first time.
  • gmolina
    Hard work- Repetition- Being a consistent teacher to your self, so when the situation does arise you will be prepared....
  • "The King and I" ran for 1,246 performances (Wikipedia) and starred Yul Brynner. People who attended the performance several times over the years say that Brynner was as believable the last time they saw him as he was the first time.
    Yul Brynner understood that each new audience deserved his best performance AKA Professionalism.
  • It's amazing how many people think that success can be found without effort (and a lot of it). This truth is the reason on 3% succeed above any other...most have a "do as little as I can to get the most that I can and in this case, the most you can get is not much."
  • amberaimshigh
    Love the Broadway analogy! Perfect!
  • Steve_Nelson
    It's HARD to do SIMPLE things over and over and over again with extreme enthusiasm. Great information. The key is that just because its hard doesn't mean we can't do it
  • randers1
    I agree with his conclusions. The huge rewards go to those who work and work and work and work. The one who does the most home meetings wins. The do what you do even if you don’t want to is major. Too often do we put ourselves first; instead of doing what is necessary for another to succeed. A side note is that those two he listed are incredibly difficult and yet possible.
  • In all walks of life it takes hard work to succeed. Why should this proffession be any different?
  • Robertdiggsjr
    Tell the story and transfer belief...repeat
  • clickjt
    And yet, so many people try to recruit people into a business by telling them how easy it will be to get rich. I have never had a chance to really experience true network professionals before discovering NMPRO. Thanks Eric, for this opportunity.
  • Lotta
    Work hard, it not easy but in the end you find a great gool.
  • Ryan
    There are no shortcuts to success. Beauty of being a professional.
  • This is really critical info... the fact that people who earn a large income in MLM work their BUTTS OFF!

    I think that this is one of the biggest misconceptions that people have in the industry is that you can just act like you are working your business full time and therefore cheating yourself and your downline by not working like you know you need to.
  • BE the source of energy!
  • frankdiaz
    wow great you gotta BUSTED IT!!!
  • Bea Resnick
    Tell the story. Transfer belief. Tell the story. Transfer belief. Do it more. Do it better. And do it whether you feel like it or not.
  • dterrell
    Excellent interview, thanks!
  • tommycone
    #227
    You have to go out and DO IT, DO IT, DO IT, DO IT and keep on doing it, until you get the results you want.
  • John Spardella
    Wow this was great and right on time. I was just thinking about, "The act" or performance, listening to my upline night after night. He even tells the same jokes, just like a great friend of mine who was a comedian and in show business. I enjoyed his show so much I would go see him over and over, now deceased, and after awhile I could do his material. Not as good of course but could still do his jokes.
  • tambry
    Dedication and rehearsinig your presentation to pillows or as I have heard before stuffed animals shows real committment. I remember doing this as a kid playing teacher and having my dolls lined up as students.
  • Jilliangene
    So true - love it. It was so good I passed it on to a few people. Thanks Jillain
  • karivankleef
    I love it. Being professional does mean doing it when you don't want to. So true in many professional positions. If you want to get somewhere you have to work at it.
  • jbledsoejr
    work your butt off sharing your product and opportunity...work you butt off sharing your product and opportunity...work your butt off sharing your product and opportunity...again and again and again

    how many ppl are willing to do this?
  • gjt
    I like his honesty about not liking peope in the beginning
  • Once again, very good information about the necessity of putting in the effort and the hours to grow your business, thank you!
  • gjt
    find a good company commit work hard and never give up
  • Common themes of NM leaders:
    1. Work your butt off.
    2. Dedication.
    3. Repetition.
    4. Show the business, transfer belief.
  • orlyalbo
    WoW. delication and work, work, work. and pbr to my cats....
  • jlt0wn
    ties right into "do a few simple things over a consistent period of time". The difference between a j o b & this - you can control how much you want to work & will receive compensation in proportion to your efforts. Once again it's repetition, consistency, practice, etc
  • keithraines
    True, work your butt off. Show the business, show the business, show the business, etc.
  • lynn hall
    I agree you have to work your but off and it is hard work and if it takes staying up late to be with your people then you have to.
  • We have to show up everytime, no matter what. No one realizes what goes into building a thriving organization until they actually do it. It takes hard work and a love for people.
  • Connie Tolton
    Good stuff - just re inforcing that what we do is good stuff. Blue tooth has helped me not look so crazy in my car :)

    Connie T
  • I liked the analogy of beeing a professional I have given presentations to my dashboard many times
  • Had the pleasure of meeting my upline Team Elite yesterday which doesn't happen too often. As he was wrapping up his specialized training yesterday for us, I was reflecting on how many people contact him in a day and ask for his help. Being at the top, he works very long hours and is recognized by many of his team. He is perfect example to me of continuing to keep telling the story and support his team.
  • hcapcarp
    I liked the analogy of becoming a professional musician playig rifffs to the wall for hours at a time before an actual performance.
  • Miguel Cortez
    Not Quiet.... when part of the jouenry of success...
  • jerryscribner
    Fabulous
  • socorro
    very interestins, more and more my viewing this t\business is great thanks you.
  • Eric, I like it when you said, "Tell the Story; tell the story; tell the story" and then, "Transfer belief."
    I need to keep that up daily! It's amazing how we know these things, but this just reinforces it. How many people are we talking to daily?

    Thanks,

    David
  • I liked the Broadway comment... interesting way of looking at it
  • When you understand the power about helping people develop their business, and in that way you build your own, you happily stay a little longer, help them a little more, and do the extra to take them ahead so they could manage their biz by themselves. As long as they improve and grow.......
  • Maxwellhealth
    Excellence of Presentation is Practice Personified......this message needs to be drilled over and over again to the New Associate.....For Things to Get Better YOU Must Get Better......Tell the Story enough times and your tranfer of belive will get stronger!!
  • Gakungu
    That's a smart move. Do the presentation to the pillows. I liked that.
  • claralondono
    enjoying the "humane" perspective of this interview by realizing the successes of leaders of the field are simultaneous with commiment and consistene hard work...so true!! like it or not...
  • nikomachi
    Most people do not think of Networking as hard work. Rightfully said by John that most people assume that it just happens. And I am starting to see that it is a career unlike popular belief.
  • Paco_Carreno
    Wow! presentation to the pillows at the sofa! I love that... I will use it with my new team members when they first face that part of the way up to success in Network Marketing.

    I'm a personal trainer and I understand the power of repetition... It's the only way to promote an adaptation.

    If you only complete a small amount of reps, you get acute effects but no adaptation.

    If you keep repeating you'll get physiological adaptation (mid term) which will disappear in the way as a result of your lack of persistence.

    BUT if you build your habit and repeat the process long enough so you make that action as part of your own reality, your own life... then you have an structural, morphological and physiological adaption which means a dramatic change of your life.
  • Inger
    Wow Paco! I like the analogy with sports! Great way of explaining why repetition is so important!
  • Paco_Carreno
    Thanks Inger... This idea has impacted me today! ;-)
  • I love the theatre analogy. We all prefer presenting to a room full of excited people than to empty seats, but, as the saying goes, 'the show must go on!'

    Mark
  • Professionals always step up to the plate when it's time!!
  • veronikakari
    I get it that it is hard work, but why does those meetings showing and telling people that it is easy.
  • Thank you for this enlightening perspective. Leaders work hard behind the scene (perseverence) even when it looks easy to others. A professional is someone who gets up on stage and gets the job done even when they don't feel like it; are good to their people and hang out with them when they would rather rest (dedication). Stars in a Broadway Play give their all; tell the story and transfer the belief even to the pillows or dog (repetition with heart and response to individuals.)
  • beckydesabah
    To become a professional takes courage, determination, sacrifice and hard work, among many other values . . . and ofcourse many hours of repetitive work. Repetition also simplifies our work... we constantly repeat what is tought to us to teach others to teach. And on the other hand, as John mentioned it, we repeat the "play" but we always have new "audience".
    Gentelmen, it's a pleasure to watch you interact.
  • Is that what it takes? Hard 17 hour day repetitive work?

    I think there is a better way. Where's the time freedom?
  • rosslopez
    I totally agree this is a repetitive business =o)
    Learn your lines and practice all the time to become an expert... tell the story with passion, transfer beliefe and all your audience will be able to get the message.
    Sucessfull people work hard to get what they want and reach their dreams, let's do the same and we'll be Network Marketing Professionals.

    Hugs from Mexico
    Rossana :D
  • carolmcwilliams
    As John is talking about what qualities the top successful people exemplify, I am taking a hard look at myself and my business. I work consistently but I can step it up more and tell the story to more people each day. I loved the analogy of an actor giving a performance. Doing the same thing over and over but with the same enthusiasm and passion each time. I will hold that intention as I go forward in my business. To bring more passion to what I say and do, and not become mechanical because I am doing it over and over. Great lesson!! I have to say that since starting to comment on each of the videos, I have invested more of myself into learning and connecting to the message. Blogging each day is certainly helping me to go deeper with the material. Thank you Eric for creating this great opportunity for me to grow.
  • martinvf
    Repetition, repetition, repetition is what makes franquices to grow.
    First define a good system then repeat it everywhere.

    We are Broadway stars.
    The show must go on... no matter what.

    Saludos from Aguascalientes, Mexico.

    Martín V.
  • Love it. A network marketing professional is always on the go ready to support their team and build relationships.
  • Thanks for elaborating on the definition of "hard work". Please give us more ideas of what "hard work" is... I think I'm doing it, but maybe I need to be more creative? If I'm not doing as much as I can, I need to step it up a notch!
  • The analogy of the broadway show is great. Besides it is clear that every top perfomer inevitably started at a small room, then went to a school theatre, then a local theatre and probably they performed a thousand times before they even stood into a broadway show. But with a constant work, and a tremendous passion it just happens! And is no magic althoug it would seem it is.

    Thanks Mr. Fogg and Eric!
  • georgeman
    You mean I can't just meet someone, show them the plan, sell them a starter kit, and say "Meet me at diamond club!'' on my way out the door???? I have to what??!! Work!!?? Are you guys out of your mind??!!

    I have an interesting question, Why do so many people looking at N.Marketing think the two options they have are, "To work hard in network marketing and make it" OR "To work easy in something else and make it"? THE ONLY WAY WE CAN MAKE IT IS BY WORKING OUR FREAKING REARS OFF, WHAT EVER WE DECIDE TO DO! This industry just allows us to do it with some back, and breath left in us before we pass.
  • Denise Cox
    it's almost 11:30pm in denver, co! i know i made the cut off for the day! woo hoo!! this was a great segment. i got out of bed to listen and give my feedback.

    i've always thought that nm was like the movie "groundhog day." i keep waking up and doing the same thing over and over yet, somehow, i'm transformed in the process, so it's not the same.

    i'm not the same. eric, you spoke about the audience, i think it's me. every time i do it, it becomes less and less about me, just a smidge. ya know?

    ok, hasta manana!

    denise cox
  • talya_mitzafon
    THANK YOU MR. FOGG FOR SHARING WITH US THIS POINT OF VEW ON OUR BUSINESS: TO SUCCEED IN OUR BUSINESS WE HAVE TO WORK ALL ALONG THE WAY ON OUR SELF, WE HAVE TO WORK ALL ALONG THE WAY TO BECOME PROFFESIONALS, WE HAVE TO WORK ALL ALONG THE WAY TO IMPROVED OUR SKILLS, WE HAVE TO BE FOCOUSED ALL THE TIME, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO EVEN IF SOMETIMES WE DON'T FEEL LIKE DOING IT! THAT'S MEANS THAT WE HAVE A VERY SIRIOUS BUSINEES! NETWORK MARKETING IS NOT A HOBBY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE SOME EXTRA MONEY ON THE WAY.
    WE HAVE TO WORK "HARD" ON A BUSINESS THAT REWARDS US ECXECTLY ACCORDING TO WHAT WE PUT IN IT!
    I LOVE MY BUSINESS!!!

  • keithmurfet
    Duplication of hard work spells success. Great system!
  • david_high
    If you are going to do something at all, give it your best.
  • Thank you for emphasizing that hard work is an absolute requirement. This can not be overstated.
  • Dee_Canada
    Well....if we missed it, the message is netWORK marketing! Committed, consistent, practiced, repetitive work!
  • caronwashington
    Hard work and persistence is where the rubber meets the road. Its what you do when the doors are closed and when you're by yourself that will make the difference. Obviously, everyone sees the top money earners go on trips and always get awards but understand we can do the same if we work just as hard if not harder. They're just consistently "telling the story" as Eric said more often than we are.
  • coltsco
    The Broadway theater analogy was great! Also really liked that he said the successful people worked hard, really hard. Too many people think they can spend a couple of hours per week and have a successful business-duh.
  • Matt Genet
    The successful work hard over the long haul. Couldn't agree more.

    Love how you drilled home the point on this being an extremely repetitive business.
  • I love this interview, thank you very much.
  • Ellis3
    Eric hit it right on the head. Most people do not understand what the "hard work" means. It is repeating the story or the script over and over and over again. I finally got that after 13 years. Now it's proving successful. Thanks Eric and J Fogg!
  • Jose Lopez
    Great point. I think if we share this approach, work hard-be consistent, with our prospects before they join, their expectations will be a lot more on target and everyone will be so much happier.
  • I like the analogy. Peeling away the layers of NM bit by bit to understand it, kind of like sitting in the light booth and watching the play 12 times after 4 weeks of rehearsals and finally getting it!
  • emmettb
    I find it very interesting that a pro is a pro in anything, and they make it look easy because they are a pro.
  • kamalharris
    It
  • Lorraine
    This is so true. Meet a leader today that was the exact description of this.
  • Tarashon Broomes
    network marketing is a simple business but you have to work hard. john is right leaders get the job done whether they want to or not
  • kamalharris
    I agree that this is no easy work by any stretch of the imagination. This is hard work and the hard work is in the consistency. Can you do what you set out to do day in and day out no matter how you feel. The Broadway play analogy was great.
  • crwood1967
    John is so correct about leaders doing what others won't do. Leaders do not wait to be lead, but push forward communicating with other leaders, but setting the standard for others to follow.
  • tyroneholmes
    Leaders do what others will not do.
  • mikeyfromvegas
    HI eric amd Mel, Mel you R rightwe will work hard and if someone doesn"t in this world they should be sitting in a toll booth. Don"t miss under stand me that is a good J.O.B.
    Mikey
  • racingworm
    Work your butt off. So many people think all you have to do is sit back after you join and watch all this money just magically appear. It's all work! As Randy says" There's no free cheese. Work your butt off for a couple years so that you can sit back later. Sometimes it's just soooo easy to procrastinate.
  • Mark Dickson
    Back from my company convention. Our leaders did just what John said. They stayed to end of night and longer to talk, shake hand, and sign posters. I wish I can be that good, someday soon.
  • Foord Yates
    I like the quote that said, "A professional is someone who gets up on stage and gets the job done whether he feels like it or not"....

    And the stage can be the physical stage in a conference room, or on the phone, or face to face with a prospect, or doing invitations, etc etc.

    As Eric says, "Tell the story, and transfer belief".
    The successful people just do this more often and more consistently than the people who don't have as much success.

    Everyone has heard "practice makes perfect", but there's not really any perfection in it, it's just BETTER the more you DO IT.


    Foord Yates
  • These interviews are just excellent. I find myself hurrying home from the JOB just to hear what will be said each day. Action everyday, does not matter if I'm worn thin or feeling lazy, I must do the work to have the success.
  • Good stuff.... love the Broadway analogy and the "getting the job done whether you feel like it or not."
    I think that character alone is what separates the boys from the men, the big dogs from the puppies.
  • margarethockaday
    Practice, practice, that is what the Great do in order to achieve the success that they want. Presentation is your premier.
  • clairecameron
    Leaders get the job done even when they don't feel like it! Get on with it Claire!
  • quintaser
    Horacio Mejia, you are right, we must perform each night, like it was the first time, the Premier. I very like your point. Congratulations.

    Sergio Quintana
  • Mark from Germany
    .. a FEW "?clearing" elements concerning misconceptions in this one for me .. Eric, this show is just incredibly, vitaly important .. 3.29 a.m. here and I just can't miss this ..
  • bethascoli
    Having a background in theatre, I was really surprised and pleased to hear the analogy of a broadway star. I could instantly relate (although I am no Broadway star!) and I think I can use this when I start to feel like I'm doing the same show every night. When I was on stage, I was always able to find a way to get excited about the performance and give it my best even if it wasn't a great crowd, I had lost my voice, etc. This was such an "aha" moment for me, thank you John and Eric!
  • JenniferDu79
    Hard work for sure! This business isn't easy but it is simple.
  • quintaser
    We are over the shoulders of colossal giants, theres no way for us to fail, we just have to listen and be obedient. This is no easy, no magic, but it´s smarter, we have all we need in our hands, let´s take it and make it. For me, sorry Eric, it´s not a better way, it´s the best way.

    From Puebla Mexico, I am Sergio Quintana
  • joomoura
    This was one of the best VDO you ever share with us!

    burrows up real in the right spot!
  • It's true, professionals do get up on stage and do get it done, whether we feel like it or not. "Just do it" and with a passion! As an Architect with my own firm, I experience this. Any given moment, any given call, any given presentation, any given meeting, be "on" all the time...person with person with person.

    The variance I would have with the Broadway analogy is this: the stage actor isn't listening/interacting to the audience. Their part, yes, presentation. but let's not advocateing to "talk at people", though. I found that engaging early on helps to relax me and who I am talking with. Otherwise, they get conditioned to siting back for "the show" and waiting until the end. Then I don't know if an applause or a boo is commming. I get what Mr. Fogg is saying, though.

    By the way, ever notice that professionals' businesses are called "practices"?

    There's a reason for that (besides the custom).
  • lisamb84
    I LOVE the analogy of being the Broadway actor/actress: always the same lines but a different audience every time. Wow. That really clarified some things for me. I'm trying to figure out how to apply "The Talent Code" to network marketing, and that might just have done it for me.
  • PaulineP
    Great perspective
  • susanclark
    #227 - John Milton Fogg's Interview Part 2 of 4 - Very inspiring that two of the qualities that separate the greatest networkers in the world from the rest are working hard and dedication. I need to strive to work hard and be dedicated all the time - even if I don't feel like it. Thanks.
  • HoracioMejia
    A very clear definition of a Professional. They act and behave the same way whether they are in the mood or not. Many hear the call to be professionals, few choose to become one. The difference is the commitment and the strenght to be there even when things look bad. Our next presentation should always be our first presentation.
  • janetrajala
    Getting the job done, whether they have the energy or not--that is a good leader and role model.
  • pollyhulseman
    Love the comparison to Broadway play - I get bored saying the same thing and sometimes forget it is a whole new audience.
  • rayrios
    Hey Eric, did he say,"work yout BUTT OFF"? Thats an understatement. We should say, ON & OFF, ON & OFF.......Great interview. It's the commitment to get it done, or like they say in the south; Get'er Done.
  • jennyc
    work,work,work!!!!!
  • Hard work - for sure...there IS a price to pay. I agree on the comparasism to a Broadway show. It´s so true. We do our work every day, tell the same story to a variety of audience.
  • JOrge Longoria
    hard working and dedication tha's all you need to be succesfull in life because as you said it you will never met a succes person in this industry who didn't get the experience of consistency. thank you have a wonderful day.
  • feltricks
    Second success requirement, be willing to work... hard.
    I wonder if the burning desire and the personal development will come together on part 3 or 4?
    Work really hard.
    Absolutely amazing show.
  • bartonmurray
    All the world's a stage and we are merely players. Players with passion that is...
  • TAbrams
    I love the Broadway analogy...same lines, passion and consistency no matter what size or who the audience is. We all have to give the same performance, enthusiastic and consistent, top notch performance whoever is there. Just as Sherman said, "people like good meetings".

    All of the top earners and producers that I know - ALL have unparalleled work ethic, and they work their tail off. They are some of the most unselfish individuals I know and are true professionals that always get up on stage, or in any settings with others and get the job done. A true leader is 120% dedicated to being their best any time, any where no matter the circumstances that may surround them.

    Tell the story - Transfer Belief!!! (repeat)
  • anthonyviglietta
    I absolutely love the Broadway reference. What a great analogy. And Eric, when will you release an audio?
  • dawnmarielagmay
    Aloha Eric, I find that the more I watch your videos, I learn where I need to improve. When I agreed to do your challenge, I shared that my concern was follow through of other people which showed me that I was the poor example in the crowd. I continue to see where I need to be the one that is improving at being consistantly consistant! :) thanks again! Dawn
  • Hard working. Dedication.
  • Earl
    Interesting to hear that some of the great Pro's have one thing in common that is PRACTICE! Some talk to their pillows, some their dogs, and some their chickens and they practice, practice, and practice some more! Others just practice on people and hope they still have someone to talk to after they get practiced...

    In most "plans" you can't sponsor pillows, dogs, or chickens, so that is why Pro's practice on them and then sponsor the People they talk.
  • gerritbronkhorst
    Dedication..that's true. I think that another thing is important too...all variables have to be in place in order to enjoy working ...so dedication will follow automatically.
  • barryburgin77
    I really like that broadway play analogy. You gotta show up and give it all you got. People can see when you are just going through the motions. And that includes being on the phone or at a live event. I am a big metallica fan. I have seen many of their shows and they ALWAYS play their heart out. And the audience responds accordingly. The same principle applies to us when we are "on stage". Except our stage is everywhere, all the time. It is all part of relationship building, in my humble opinion.
  • andreas papakostas
    Good Tips...
  • juliehawkins
    I like the the broadway terms you just do it take action evryday single day.
  • Irina
    Leaders work hard. There are no leaders who didn't work their butt off. Working hard means repetitive business: tell the story and tranfer belief to the audience which is always different.
  • Daniel W. Cook III
    #18
    Doesn't matter how an actor may feel, when the lights come on and the curtain pulls open... it's showtime!
    Very close to this business. I don't always feel like picking up the phone, doing the training call, doing the presentation or sometimes even responding to the text messages. But when duty calls... it's showtime! No kinks in the armor! At least that's the goal... :)
  • nickgarrison
    This is nice for the new person who gets depressed when no one shows. No shows happen to everyone. It is staying consistent. Like exercise you can't get in great shape working out everyday for a week and then take a break for a month.
  • I love the broadway analogy. I want some more of those qualities. You only got to 2 of them.....more more more......
  • latachia_2
    What do successful people have in common?They work their butts off,weather they "feel" like it or not consistantly.Cruises & trips are a by-product of that.
    There's lots of repitition involved& dedication to what it is that they are going to achieve.He equates it to a Broadway play,the show must go on,weather there's 0 people or 1000 people to perform for. He actually gave a meeting to 2 pillows,when nobody showed up to a PBR.
    Work your butts off,consistancy& dedication are what successful people have in common
  • kgoren
    Getting the job done, even if you don't feel like it. Hard work and dedication, as in any profession, to become successful. Giving the presentation to the pillow, you dog or your kids....Practice makes perfect!
  • The show must go on and on and on and on with the lead performer being the Network Marketing Professional, hardworking and dedicated. And loving it!!
  • highimpact0406
    What a fantastic analogy with the Broadway show! That really gives me a different sense of passion and meaning behind what I am doing and what network marketing is all about. Also, that you mentioned we only see some of the most successful people on stage, on vacation, etc. etc. but we didn't see how hard they worked to get there, it put into perspective the fact that this is not a "get rich fast" business if done right! Thanks so much John!
  • Nancy
    Ha! I have practiced with the pillow too - plus my parrots who seem to be quite interested. Good to know that it isn't only me that have some meetings with no shows.
  • Bjorgli
    It's really hard work to be a professional.
  • shawncyr
    I loved the Broadway analogy. No matter what, the show must go on. Week in, week out, do it! I guess this is why it's called easy but hard work. It's the same thing, so we can master it, but it comes down to the dedication and drive to keep doing it.
    Hang in there gang.
    Oh yeah, and I read JM Foggs book The Greatest Networker last night. Awesome and definitely and eye opener.
  • CarlosVera
    Consistent hard work to get the job done, whether you feel like it or not. That was a great way to define what dedication truely is................
  • Ernesto_Busnelli
    Working butt off
    Got a room full of pillows
    but pillows won't order product.
    Hummmmmm
    Next pillow !

    Now for real. Although I know some of this stuff but it makes
    such a difference to hear it as a statement from a pro.
    Thank you both E. & J.
  • Practice makes perfect! Present even if no one is listening! Thanks for a great interview!
  • dougharkins
    "success leaves clues" great quote!
  • Lisette
    I love this interviews.
  • John Fogg says leaders work hard and are dedicated such that they work even when they don’t feel like doing it. Eric says in NM we really do two things - We consistently and repeatedly tell the story and transfer belief. The business of NM is repetitive, but what's consistently different is the new prospects. In that sense it's like a Broadway play, where the dialogue repeats, but the audience is new at each performance.

    A clear conscience may be the sign of a bad memory.

  • BetterCoffee.dk

    I love the Broadway analogy.
    Kinda goes hand-in-hand with Michael Clouse's remarks about making your actions a habit.
    Make it a habit to do a great presentation every day - even if only to the sofa pillows.

    I gave a prospect a 1 minute presentation (thanks Big Al) on the phone while riding my MTB in the forrest today! Whohooo that was a nice feeling being able to say "sorry if there's a bit of wind, but I'm riding my bike in the forrest." It was 3 pm when she called and she couldn't help but notice that it was something nice to be doing while others slave away in their offices. My answer? "This is my office!" :)

    You gotta love this profession!
  • jlconner
    Awesome analogy. This is what makes network marking so simple. No easy, simple.
  • All the leaders I've talked to have been consistent in their message and their actions.

    One says it best; Be perfecting - not perfect.

    Thanks
  • " Hard workers"....like being a lead in a broadway play.....same lines every night just a differnt audience...what a great analogy !!!!
  • eugenejohnson
    Wow thats real....the hard work might scare some people off but its worth it....i would rather work crazy hard for 5-10 years and then be able to slow down, then to work 40 years and then have to get another job once i retire.
  • It is easier to speak about your business after you practice and become confortable enough to roll from one point to another without adding "and then" or " you know" every few sentences. Make it sweet and make it short.
  • brianhepner
    This repetitive business is my passion. Practice, practice, practice.
  • Pepeneto
    Be a profesional. Go out there, tell the story again and again, get the job done, doit always with enthusiasm, pasion,faith...and doing you feel like doit or not.
  • - Work Ethic - Telling the story and transferring belief over and over and over again
    - Unwavered Dedication - Get out and make things happen whether you feel like it or not (prospecting, training, etc.)

    Once again, the message comes back to the basics. Share your opportunity ALOT!!!
  • dstfa96
    To be a leader in our profession of network marketing we have to work hard and get the job done regardless of whether we feel like it or not. This is a repetitive business we tell the story and transfer belief. Its that simple!

    On another note the greatest networker in the world is a fantastic book!
  • mariasiro
    Yepp, it is hard work and always do your best!!
  • If your going to take the time to do something...do it well.
  • Yes it is hard work, yet the rewards of your labor are far more than the 40 year job in my books.
  • Wow... I love that Broadway play analogy.
  • Brian Bodenhamer
    Episode 18 of Eric Worre's 100 Episode Throw Down Challenge:

    Work hard and Repeat, get the lifestyle and then work Harder and repeat... Simple.. Not earth shattering but effective... Thank you both.. Looking forward to tomorrow's episode.
  • gillym1
    Absolutely so right - thank you so much!
  • I like the Broadway analogy, my audience is always different. I just need to be consistent and repetitive.

    It is hard work, you might not feel like getting out/up and doing it and you might not be good at it in the beginning. Now how many jobs in Corporate America are any different, not many! The BIG difference is freedom….if I do NM for 20+ years as I have been in doing my current career I personally will be successful not the company. So, is it worth it….yes, yes, yes.

    So, I am getting out there and becoming NMPRO !!!!!!
  • Your comment about this being a repetitive business is an important one. Tell the story over and over and over again. The challenge is in learning the people skills to be able to transfer your beliefs to your prospects. By learning how to effectively communicate by asking questions and really listening to the answers you will become a master of influence (in a good way). Also, the idea of going to 'work' whether you feel like it or not is important. It's like preparing for a race. If you never feel like training, how will things go on race day. Always do more than you feel like doing!
  • jpmendoza
    The repetition of doing the play with the same passion at the matinee as on opening night, sometimes you have only your dog or the pillow as an audience. It is still HARD WORK going out the door each day not knowing if anyone is going to GET IT!

  • bryantkeefe
    Work your butt off and how you feel is irrelevant. Present to the pillows. Classic and wonderful messages! Thank you both.
  • liora
    Excellent! Most people think that Network is like hobby and that's why they are not willing to WORK
  • talya_mitzafon
    DEFENATLY!!! I COMPLETETLY AGREE WITH YOU.
  • Edith Kohler
    I start reading the book
    We always tell our children,you can do everything you want to do.Just practice,practice ,practice
    Now I'm glad somebody else is telling me so
    thanks
  • gabyroa
    I like so much this part ... is a chalenge of repetition buy with PASSION, thats makes the big diference .. any way, life is that a daliy rutine, whats is the diference .... the PASSION we put in every second ... but not every body live with this stamina, let´s go a find the ONES and do our GREAT MLM Shackespeare PLAY!!!! thanks to share ... is like in every show, something is cooking inside!!!
  • I think John was cut off in his prime here - he started talking about 4 or 5 key principles but only managed 2 I think: hard work (which I'd translate as disciplined) and dedicated (I'd offer tenacious?) - with a positive, unstoppable "whatever it takes" attitude [intense burning desire as Napoeon Hill might have it?]. Eric added consistent then we had rehearsal after the repetitive business comment. I get the sense that there is some gold to be had from John but I'm not seeing it just yet. I think another developing theme is the importance of keeping score - knowing what activities need to be carried out to achieve your goals and then measuring how they translated into achievements so you can adjust as necessary.
    Still loving Sherman but gotta go and watch Brig Hart now who is even more impressive!
  • Donna Wheaton
    Good Morning Eric

    Working hard is the key to success. There are many was of working hard you can work hard helping your team reach their goals.
  • KeithN
    All the elements of success fit together. Hard work and working consistently (dedication and repetition). It's important to become skilled at telling your story, and get better at it each time. That's where the personal development component comes in to play.
  • I totally agree that Network Marketing is a Simple business of repetition. The leaders do it more that others. Share your story and transfer belief. That's simple. What is hard is doing that consistently. Building up our own belief is key to the success in this industry. Thanks for sharing.
    God Bless!
  • chipc
    John is very raw and forthright. He says it as it is. It's hard work to be successfull.
  • Vern Trabue
    Something worth fighting for, must include "hard work". There's no other way around it!
  • I've never heard "hard work" defined before so thanks for the analogy; it makes sense. What is hard work? Hard work is doing whatever it takes to achieve your goals and in this business it's doing whatever it takes over and over and over again. "A little more persistence, a little more effort, and what seemed hopeless failure may turn to glorious success"..
  • I totally agree with you. Thanks for sharing you thoughts.
  • daddykekere
    Thanks Eric. We are a lot familiar with hardwork, but the intensity of hardwork is usually what is left out. Making calls at 1:30 am is really over the top. It really does seperate the eagles from the turkeys. Hardwork and dedication it is. Thanks.
  • drmikempa
    consistancy!
  • timandtricia
    True dedication and the ability to consistantly tell the story and transfer belief sounds like a couple of keys to becoming a real network marketing "star".
  • Love this video Eric. Most people think they have a "lottery #" instead of a Distributor #. We are in the Net-WORK Marketing Industry. Not the "Net-Sit on the Couch" or "Net-Watch some TV" Business. Although I am not where I want to be YET with our Profession I know it will take a lot of hard work.
  • Thanks Peter for those analogies. I will have to use them next time I am in a situation where someone thinks they have just won the lottery after joining a network marketing business.
  • And Todays lesson is: work hard and be dedicated! Thanks! / Linda, Sweden
  • juanfernandogutierrez
    Repetitive business.. very true, every time we have to put our best, no matter if we have one, two, ten or a hundred prospects, alwys with passion.... using the story helps the business; we have to burn our butt; but at the end the reward is sooo big, that it is worth it... I love what I do, thanks Erick and John for inspiring me to be the best I can be.
  • onemartymac
    I spent a month working on my presentation, every time we had no one show up... we did it anyway. Again and again...then we had 3 prospects show up and they all got in and our presentation was excellent. It was all do to the practice and to keep moving and perfecting your craft!

    Can't wait for the rest of the interview... Thank you
  • Great job! Congratulations on your success!
  • I suspect it is 'hard' work from the point of view of a fly on the wall... and perhaps a few in the room. For those who are producing the 'work' AND have distanced or separated themselves from honoring a set of 'feelings' they may or may not have about it... it can be a freeing sense of joy and a presence of wonder. While this may happen by accident it generally only appears after hours and hours of practice. As long as your 'attention' is on yourself and your 'intention' is about looking good... no amount of 'hard work' makes much difference.

    Awesome that John clasps his hands to demonstrate that all the '#1's' must fit together in order to be ultra successful... A willingness to go through the struggle and effort to get there is serious work. 'The Bound Man' by Ilse Aichinger points to this in story form.
  • Daniel Glez.Peña
    Hola Eric, interesting¡¡¡ The presentation,,, pillows,jajaja Good...
    We need to work 24/7.
    Saludos.
    Daniel y Natali,Qro.
  • Eileen
    I am so loving these interviews Eric. This was one of the best. It really hit me when he said how hard leaders work to get to where they are.
  • I need to work on that. Working into the late hours.
    I have this mindset that when 8:30pm rolls around, the computer gets shut off and I stop working.
    I've seen many people work into the late hours and come up roses.
  • Don;t forget to work smart though - working hard is not the answer. You need to be very efficient with your time and in order to do that you have to become skillful. Eric mentioned a white paper on the secrets of success a couple of shows ago - remember it said that the practice needed to be with a purpose and that purpose is to get better at the activity. An initial introduction to your opportunity should be do-able in only a couple of minutes. Great planning to ensure you look professional and then presenting the opportunity to as many people as possible in the way that converts the highest ratio of people into customers.
  • Thank you Brad for that.
    I do have a Daily Plan that I've created and follow consistently.
    It helps me to stay focused. But I think I'm going to have to re-do my Daily Plan to include focus into the later hours.
  • leonardoparra
    Great analogy between the broadway performance and a business presentation. All. is about the audience, no matter if is one or one hundred.
  • raybeattie
    Give the presentation to the pillows, I love it. Good stuff Eric.
  • lopazelasane
    As usual Eric great job...there is "NO" free lunch you got to work your ass off and do whatever it takes in order to succeed...
  • Okay. Love the theater analogy. I've had a fruitful theater career, so can totally relate to hard work, doing it even if nobody shows up. Being consistent - play full out - even if some in the audience seem distracted, play full out and give your all - stay focused and believe in what you're doing - you don't know who needs to hear or see, or who is watching, perhaps an usher or the ticket taker needs to be inspired. Do what it takes to be healthy so when the big break comes -- you're ready.
  • Pete
    Eric...you have become a master interviewer. You are always well prepared and offer us information available no where else in an interesting and professional way. You are a leader in this industry!!
  • bethascoli
    I agree Pete, Eric is great at asking the right questions so that we get some valuable information!
  • turjcxg
    Eric, great show. You know I think most of us who've been in the business for a while know intuitively that this is a repetitive business. But when I hear you say it out loud, point blank like you and John did on this show, it really validates what I suspected but had not really confirmed through a knowledgeable 3rd party. In my previous network marketing business, I always thought there was something wrong with me because I felt bored with what I was doing: getting leads, holding appointments. It just seemed like it went on forever without closure.

    Now after watching this show, I know that I was on the right track and for this NM company that I'm now in, I will stay in because I now know (thanks to you and John and your upfront, straight talk), that this repetition, this boredom is just part of the journey and I need to develop the emotional skill of pushing through that boredom or at least coping with it in a productive way.
  • Pefect your pillow talk and the room will be filled with warm bodies in the future!
  • MarvinTowler
    I like the Broadway show analogy too. Being a professional network marketer is just like an actor delivering the same lines over and over again. The Phantom of the Opera is the longest running show Broadway's history and every show it is the same lines. People work hard to land a role in a Broadway production to say the same thing over and over again night after night. Wow! It is a petty astounding thought to me! Thanks Eric & John.
  • gmeyerson
    This is work, so many think it should be easy, but nothing in life necessarily comes easy. Consistently doing the small things over and over again will get results if the small things are the appropriate activities
  • quincy
    Thats a common theme I hear among all these interviews. Working hard doing the same simple things over and over is what creates the success.
  • Dedication… a network marketing leader works their butt off. A professional gets to work whether they feel like it or not. This is the number one reason why “most” people don’t reach their goals; most people treat their business more like a hobby, then of course get hobby results.
  • I totally agree... if you have 1 person or thousands, the "show" should not change. If you have to give the presentation to a pillow, just do it, we can all use the practice anyway.
  • I think you need to connect with the people though - you can't forget this is a people business. It's an old saw but: "people don't care what you know until they know that you care" - you can't build rapport with a pillow - a dog is do-able - a cat? Forget it ;-@
  • I wasn't discounting the connections that need to be made. Simply that if you are giving a presentation and end up without any one to present to, Practice, Drill and Rehearse it anyway.

    Thanks for the visual though. I've been told painting a picture is important. :)
  • bartar20
    I like it, so true, you have to be on at all times whether you feel up to it or not, consistency is the key and energy, belief. You push thru it and give your best performance.

    Barry
  • denisekay
    Elated!
    Talk to a pillow. Yes!
    I work hard trying to figure it out. Turning trying to effort and 2 a day.

    Thanks a million.... a zillion
  • And there was I thinking pillow talk was something completely different. They say romance is dead...
  • denisekay
    Romance will never die. Consider this: Adam and Eve, sold the apple.
    And Doris Day lives on :)
  • brigittapatel
    Love the analogy about the Broadway performer - ok there are empty seats but that one person who came may just be the future leader in the company.
    Give it your best performance always.....

    Thanks a million.
  • I LOVE the broadway show analogy. That is absolutely perfect! Just think about how many times the show has been performed and he audience is different.

    However! the performance for the audience is always presented in a way that you'd never know the actors had done it dozens of times before. The passion never waivers and the audience perception is that the actors are performing just for them... for the very first time.

    Love it!
  • Bernadette
    Great analogy. A network marketing business is easy to do but you only see results if you work hard at it!
  • Hey Bernadette - remember Eric keeps emphasizing it's not "easy" but it is simple/straightforward. People don't achieve because they don't have a strong enough why and they don't consistently carry out the daily activities needed to achieve momentum that is sufficient to provide a compelling story whilst overcoming the drag of people dropping out. ;-)
  • Bryan_in_KC
    Working hard accelerates success. You can still do the business and not work AS hard, but it will take 2 to 5 times longer to accomplish the same result. Why not go all out and live your dream ...help your family ...help your friends ...give to more causes ...fund more mission trips ....whatever SOONER by doing what it takes, working hard over a shorter period of time? To do otherwise, in my opinion, is ludicrous.
  • carybennett
    another great show thats what i tell my people that think there working hard. But its the easiest hard work you've ever done. Repetition, thanks
  • ritafulton
    I love the analogy of the Broadway Performer..great nuggets..yeah lots of meetings where no one shows up and too many folks just fold and go home..too bad for "empty seats" from here on out..

    Thanks
  • excellent analogy to the Broadway play...same routine, but they have to put out the passion and create the emotion on stage as if it was the first time. That point was SO good!
  • You've got to be authentic though - don't fake it until you make it - if you aren't authentic people will quit when the pressure is on because their doubts will convince them your'e a fake.
  • bethascoli
    Right, I think some of the best theater are shows in which the audience is involved, or at least where the actors and audience are very much in tune with each other. You can't fake that kind of connection, it has to be authentic or it isn't good. I think the same goes for the business, if you're just putting on a performance, you won't really connect with your "audience" - the secret is to really care about the person you're talking to, then it truly is a different experience each time, because it is about THEIR experience (the prospect).
  • Hans
    Succes leaves clues...hard work....do it when u dont feel like it....dedication....tell the story over and over again and transfer belief....
  • Most people are attracted to the network marketing business because they think ( and the sponsor tells ) it's simple and easy to do... Professionals know it's not!
    We have to tell the truth to the prospects, then there will be less disapponted distributors.

    The analogy with actor's job seems me perfect: you do the same performance again and again and again, but every time the audience is different, and you do it with passion.
  • kristibateman
    I'm getting my pillows all lined up.
  • Marion
    Hard work falls under consistency!
    Thanks for a great show
  • NWM is just like any other profession ... you get to the top by WORKING.

    It's not Nethope Marketing! Talk to people, over and over, and let your group know that's what THEY should be doing if they want to build a large business. Simple, but not easy ...

    Best,
    Scott
  • rmonte
    Once we stop trying to avoid the hard work things begin to happen. Great example about Broadway Give it your best performance whether you have one person in front of you or one thousand. Thanks!

    Rick M
  • kgadol
    The ability to transfer belief ... I like that ... rehearsal, absolutely. It's all good. The more we "feed" ourselves here, the more that belief is fed too. Thank you.
  • fc34615
    A student becomes a master by learning the art of repetition.
    Thanks Eric,
    Fernando.
  • Thanks for the complete honesty of Milton Fogg. Consistent hard work cannot be replaced. The analogy with an actor on Broadway says it all-passions and dedications.
  • hillin
    Hi, I totally agree with you Judith Atkinson. best regards, Hilli N
  • nancy eldred
    What do I think of Mr. Fogg's conclusions - I agree 100%
    the ones that make the $$ big bucks $$ put the effort in - all the time

    A good learning experience for me was when John said about playing to a different audience - the story is the same but our prospect is always different. How often do we get tired of telling OUR story ? I know for myself I get bored with it - but I have to remember that the person I'm talking to - it's all new to them - I will keep that in mind - thank you
  • gabor73
    Thank you Eric, great stories.
  • Tina
    I loved the analogies. And I appreciated the bit about hard work. It is hard as a new network marketer to visualize them working that hard..but great to hear it.

  • alltheverybest
    Love it! I have never done a presentation to a pillow but done plenty to just the new distributor when his guests chose not to turn up...oh and one or two to the dog when my own didn't.

    I think the WORK HARD bit is so important. Far too many people are keen to tell a prospect that they can be successful with minimum effort. Every thing worthwhile takes a big effort.
  • Art D lasvegas
    Great Great things to hear!
  • rasdaniels
    Success leaves clues...Professionals get the job done whether they feel like it or not - do the same thing everyday; the same thing; the only thing that will change is my audience!!!. Great interview; I watched three times. Thanks Eric and John
  • drpricedc
    I heard a story from one of my mentors who used to travel with Zig Zigglar and others on a success seminar tour. My mentor said that even after 20 years of lecturing, Zig was still back stage rehearsing, practicing his pauses, and practicing his body language before he went on to do his presentation. The more I study successful people the more I find this.....if they are successful, and their actions seem spontaneous, it is usually because of intense behind the scenes preperation that gets them to this flawless, spontaneous appearance. That is a true master. I believe this broadway production analogy to be true in any industry with almost any successful person. If you watch these individuals with this in mind, you can gain the true respect that they deserve for all of the hard work that they put in behind the scenes!
  • rasdaniels
    thanks for the story on Zig Zigglar.
  • Gerard
    Thanks Eric
  • It's so good to learn from the top leaders in our profession. My train is certainly rock and rolling my friend. Best regards from your biggest fan.
  • nikigombis
    I love to hear these stories. Gives me hope for myself.
  • FrankMarshman
    I have a daugher who is in NYC studying in hopes to be a musical theatre actrice. She sings every night for several hours. That's what practice does, makes permanent.
  • rasdaniels
    We in our industry must take our clues from people like your daughter - who sings every night for several hours. To be a professional, we must do it over and over and over again!
  • Hai
    I continue to learn each day- always the right message for the day, for the week for me to continuously improve my new skills in NMPro. Thanks, Eric & I now, see the values of people's comments and your encouragement for us to leave comments. I learn from each perspective and each comment from all walks of life here. Thanks everyone!
  • nikigombis
    Consistency always trumps crash and burn.
  • conniegleave
    John's conclusions are spot on! This is a simple business but it's not an easy one. Working our butts off - getting the job done whether we feel like it or not, etc. are definitely a few of the key elements to success.

    I'm dedicated to providing the best information about our business whether I'm talking with a hot, warm, or even somewhat cool prospect. The story remains the same. But what I learned this morning is that I need to go to work on 'transfering-the-belief' while telling the story. Thank you!
  • nikigombis
    I need to rehearse my promotion speech.
  • nikigombis
    Wish there was more. Hard to hear all the book recommendations.
  • I agree, great analogy! I can't wait to hear the other 3 or 4 #1 tips! :)
  • hpena
    Great analogy about a preformer on broadway. I think you're right Eric, we hear "work hard" but not what to work hard at. That's where better training comes in, and I can't think of a better way to get trained than NMPro.

    Nando
  • Jillian
    Great analogy - love the comparison to a Broadway Show - its the behind the scenes effort not the glitz that is necessary for success.
  • If you are serious about this business, you should understand the truth about what it takes to become successful. And successful, is defined by you and me.
  • carolbarrett
    Terrific show today. Success leaves clues, work you butt off, dedication and consistency--great nuggets from a true professional in the business.
  • Luis Gringras
    I like the analogy, like a Broaway Star, working hard mean do the same story over and over
  • I wish he would smile more! I went and bought his book and am committed to "working my butt off"!
  • Don Harrington
    The harder I work, the luckier I get. Great stuff!
  • I spent 20 years in show business producing major name entertainment for my corporate clients.
    One of the most memorable lessons I learned from this fabulous experience is that the “talent”, whether they were the biggest name celebrities in the business or the opening act that was given the opportunity to perform, for each of these show business professionals, the opportunity to perform was everything that they had dedicated their life to, and as such they had rehearsed every musical accompaniment, spoken word, choreographed movement, lighting cue, entrance, exit, and their encore etc, in order to extract the most out of every performances , and thus deliver to the audience that special memory. Keep in mind that this was not just about making more money as the money had already been earned in my contract to them, so their payoff was the applause, their desire to leave the audience wanting more, and their commitment to professionalism.
    With these qualities in place, they knew that their fan base and following would grow.
    In Network marketing it is much the same. If you create and deliver your best performance every time you gain the opportunity to get on stage & perform, you will create you own “Applause Guaranteed “ and a growing downline!
  • bartonmurray
    Bill-with your experience in showbiz, did you find that it took more than sincerity to come across as believable? Would love your opinion on showing up as a leader and how to portray confidence.
  • The most important take away from my years as a producer of live entertainment was to understand that there is only one leader on stage and if you don't lead, then someone else will step in and they then are the producer. Yes to sincerity, but yes to knowing your craft and fulfilling your responsibility to be the boss and lead. Don't want to come off as arrogant, but even the celebrity wants the producer to stay in control, otherwise you have a wreck in the making. Hope this is of value. If you want to discuss, you can contact me directly at bill.gold@bgproductions.com. All the best.
  • rasdaniels
    Wonderful comments
  • nikigombis
    It gets better and better. Maybe we should prospect more actors.
  • lauralopez
    In this business you have to work hard to be success. As leader you have to listen your people, shaking hands, be with them, dedicate time to be with your team
    Laura Lopez
    Monterrey
  • wizba4444
    Practice is the name of this game.
  • I think more precisely it is the continuous development of skill- particularly in developing efficient use of time, persuasion and use of third party tools to pre-qualify potential business partners.
  • chriskemp817
    Working your butt off even when you don't feel like it. I like what Mr Fogg said. I like the analogy about an actor in a Broadway play who says his lines over and over to another audience each night.
  • billrogers
    Great points! Success leaves clues. Like the nuggets of the elements. especially the one on professionalism and dedication. Proves self discipline is a very important key to success.
  • I like this analogy. I am a adjunct professor and I understand getting up and performing when you dont feel like it. There are many times I would rather be at home or doing something else. I think this is a good turning point for me. Great Interview.
  • germanjaramillo
    Well, i think our profession it is a really simple job for every one. Everybody can do the simple things using the tools and being the messenger and not the message. Also, I'm sure too that to be a big leader in this profession, we have to work hard and pay de price like in other profession.

    Have a great day, there in Australia.

    In this oportunity from Bogota,

    -GJ
  • Dave S
    It's SHOW TIME! Heading out to find my two prospects today.
  • hlj521
    LOVE IT! Thank you for these nuggets of wisdom. I can start my day ready to face the challenges with much more confidence and belief. I love the performance analogy it is so great!
    There are times I don't feel like doing stuff but knowing it needs to get done and doing it anyway is the key to having success.
  • It looks like pro do it for love and passion. Period. It kind of becomes ingrained in their system and go for it. Freedom from the wheel.

    NOTES:
    Work the butt off - this is a hard work, there's a price to pay
    The Path of Least Resistance, by Robert Fritz
    A professional is someone who get out there and do what needs to be done, whether they want to do it or not - Dedication
    This is one of the most repetitive business in the world, tell the story time after time
    Tell the story and transfer belief
    Tell the story more than other people
    What's different every night is the audience, the prospects, the people that hear the story
  • ybimbalanced
    Professionals do it, wether they want to or not. Great reminder on those days that I don't want to do what I need to do! Thanks Eric!
  • ulla99
    This is wonderful and truth! Som will make it happend and some will watch when it happens. We are human beings and nothing will change it.
  • Katie N
    Hard work-great concept. I am enjoying this guy's wisdom.
  • mbryant
    Excellent analogies! The Broadway actors and the assembly line worker. NM success is built upon "Dependable Consistency"
  • Cee_G
    Hi Eric...This analogy with performers was spot on. You have to bring your "A" game even when you don't feel like it. The audience does not care if you are having a bad day. They are listening to you so they can find a better way. Great insights from you and John...thank you!
  • peterburrows
    To get to the top in any profession you gotta do the hard yards....
    think of the sportsman..... out training in the rain if that the way it is.....everyday.
    in the gym....that's pain.
    so you get 'no shows' .... talk to yourself!
    I've had some great conversations with me in empty hotel receptions......
    BUT I STILL BELIEVE.......
  • luciabrazell
    I had my first open house ever and only 3 people show up and they were family but I did!! it my sister felt bad for me but I told her why feel sorry I did it and I won't stop and yesterday I went out again and I got a prospect she might sign up ? oh yeah sold lot's of product so I guess you really have to be passionate it will all work out as long as we work
  • Way to go Lucia! Keep the passion in the business and you will go far.
  • What do you do with your Passion.................you work your " butt off " . You get the job done even when you don't feel like it. You are dedicated....repetitive....your passion stays the same no matter the size of the crowd. YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL.
    thank you Eric and John
  • With appreciation..
    Here as promised.
  • jeffreyhall
    The analogy of the stage actor is so right on. If you have the passion it does not matter the true professional always gives their best for 1 or 1000 as many times as it takes.
  • who ever came up with the idea that the rich get rich by laying on the sofa? It takes dedication, passion and HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD work, and after you've done that hard work you can start to relax.....but first comes HARD WORK!!!!
  • Inspiration and perspiration ;-)
  • soxfan071
    Mr. John Milton Fogg is right about the only way to the top is hard work. The more you repeat something the better you become. Even when someone says no thank you or you are speaking to the pillows you are getting better and one step closer to success.
  • Eric and John,
    The theater analogy has two sides.

    The repetition over and over and over again, not to mention the performance itself.... truly requires a skill set that is far from self evident or common. So where does this leave so many of us who are either not sufficiently endowed or don't have the endurance to acquire the skills we need? Answer - in the 97% majority? Enter Belief, enter Choice.

    The other side of the coin - the audience is always [the only thing that is] different. Different people - yes. Our attitude towards the audience, however, is usually given.
    Are we pitching to snare/convince them to join out team and so contribute to our income? or
    are we genuinely appreciative of the people who have come and given us the opportunity to share with them the better way that we have found?
    The answer is usually somewhere in the middle.

    Exactly where we are on this continuum pretty much determines the quality and results on the other side of the coin - performance.
  • randyhendrickson
    I believe this to be the truth. You have to work hard and share the opportunity.
  • Yes, be with your team, share the story daily with a new audience and have fun.
  • garyparmenter
    It is so true. The most successful people I know are willing to do what ever it takes to get job done! Practice makes perfect! Those that are willing to hang in there and hone their skills will find success. I always like to say. Luck is nothing more than a lot of hard work. Thanks Eric
  • Eric,
    Many people have written about and commented on Network Marketing.
    John Fogg stands out as the most passionate, insightful and tenacious.
    His weekly MastermindSessions (now discontinued) were a treasure-chest I looked forward to opening every Friday.
    This series where you now interview the Master-Interviewer provides us all with yet another precious distillation of wisdom, aged and matured in the mind of a truly great man.
    I appreciate you both, immensely.
  • Mark_Abrahams
    Am learning from the best, my mentors are all over the world and am adding to the list. I have now reinforced my view that, as JMF observes, I must "work my butt off". Tell the story and transfer belief. And yes, the audience is always different, which adds to the fun and the 'performance'[. Thanks again Eric.
  • patrickmcfeely
    Share the opportunity, tell your story then Repeat.

    Thank you for your time Eric
  • tomlacey
    Hard work, consitency and passion. The holy trinity of success.
  • Tony
    Personally I don't believe the physical hard work is an issue for anyone who wants real success. TAlking on the phone, presenting meetings and helping people is only hard work if you don't want to do it. IF that's the case such a person shouldn't be in network marketing.

    I believe that getting past some major fears and limiting beliefs is the REAL hard work for many, dragging themselves out of their mental prison can be the most painful exercise. Unfortunately some simply aren't willing to even try, and that's the greatest disappointment.
  • karenandian
    Interview # 2 with John Fogg - Successful Network Marketers work hard at building their business - even when they don't feel like it. Practice your story. Practice, Practice, Practice - the same way a lead role in a Broadway play would. Have meetings - if no one shows up - do the meeting with passion to the pillows! (We love that) - it shows perseverance & determination..
  • Have never known a successful network marketer who hadn't worked very hard to get to where they are. Don't be fooled by their appearances on cruises etc, remember they are on the phone at 1am.

    A professional networker is someone who gets up on stage regardless if they want to or not. They continue to make time for others and dedicate themselves to this task at hand.

    This is one of the most repetitive businesses in the world by just keep telling the story. People shouldn't be hot for just one week. Imagine a lead in a Broadway play, in so much it is the same every night but the audience is different. Regardless if the place is empty or a packed house the performance needs to be the same with the same passion.

  • Good Interview! I'm looking forward to hearing more of John's perspective on what it takes to be suucessful.
  • theuns
    Thank you Eric

    I love this , It just make send and the best is it is working what you put in is what you will get out.

    As the saying go : "Do today that others don't to get tomorrow that others wound ( Will not get ) .

    I just love this also "you need to work your butt off" or you can sit and do nothing and fool your self and think money will fall out of the sky.

    Regards
    Theuns :-)
  • eddyoshaughnessy
    Seems like there's no avoiding hard work
  • Bummer
  • Ria Leermakers
    Again the hard work, passion and consistency are the main themes.
    So lets do it!
  • Javed Iqbal
    I am enjoying the interview :)

    If you are WAITING HARD success will never come!
    If you are WORKING HARD success will come soon!

    Javed Iqbal
    Educator | Empowerer | Entrepreneur
    Lahore, Pakistan.
  • Ngoc Tran
    John has pointed out most of the common themes. I think the over all characters are working hard and being good to people. Yes, from the two characters we will have many interesting conclusions. Thanks John & Eric!
  • Simon_and_Lia_NL
    It seems we are not working hard enough, we definitely need more passion and we definitely need to be more consistent in our 'performances'. Thanks mister Fogg, great words
  • peterragg
    Who wants to be a star?
    Get up on stage and say it with passion.
    regards
    Peter Ragg
  • Great
  • yuvalcohen
    Hello Eric.
    I agree that I have to work hard. In order to succeed.
    Knowing that I could complete the business.
    I rewarded the best and fair way.
    Pending further interview
  • maariee
    Hard work and dedication... I get the message. Thanks for today
  • Yes, another thing I keep hearing, and heard you mention sooo many time is work hard. Leaders work their face off.
  • MagnusEdvald
    Again, hard work and dedication. Sometimes it is difficult to get people to understand that it is not a magic lottery ticket but same old, same old, hard work and dedication. This was a good reminder.
  • annenz
    Working consistently hard and the matinee show with less audience is no different to a packed house. Great observation. Thankyou.
  • This is amazing. John is such a 'people' person, meaning he thinks first about the other person/end user, that he won't give a number one answer. He makes it so obvious that if one is all about the other person (prospect or team member) then every interaction can only be effective if one understands the other person's needs.

    And Eric, when you said "would you call that just dedication". It's 'just' dedication to you and to those who get it, yet for most it means getting out of their comfort zone, completely out of their comfort zone, and then doing the things that have to be done whether they like it or not. And most just aren't prepared to do that, especially when they get a few rejections. So goes the Jim Rohn phrase, "Learn to manage your disappointments".

    This interview just brilliant. Bring on #3.
  • The interviews just get better and better! Keep it up, Eric. Hope you have a nice tan @Hayman Island.

    Hi all, anyone here know what software Eric uses to record the split screen interviews? He mentioned Skype - I use skype but I couldn't find the feature for split screen recording. Can anyone help? Cheers.
  • Maybe he is getting the split screen up then using Camtasia to record? I think the next stage would be to edit the audio so it's balanced - but I am picky ;-)
  • Darnell
    I don't see anything wrong with sweat on the brow especially when it comes to doing something I love and have great belief in. Nothing or no one can deter a person from success except self. That's why you both are where you are today b/c you didn't stop going thru the journey in network marketing. Realistic info to share and balanced. Thank you...looking 4ward to the next video!!
  • Darnell
    I don't see anything wrong with sweat on the brow especially when it comes to doing something I love and have great belief in. Nothing or no one can deter a person from success except self. That's why you both are where you are today b/c you didn't stop going thru the journey in network marketing. Realistic info to share and balanced. Thank you...looking 4ward to the next video!!
  • I loved the analogy of the Broadway show, doing it over and over and over again, in a passionate manner, even to a half empty house, and off course work your 'butt' off.
  • lucbehar
    oh yes, consistency in your dedication is so true!
    working hard everyday, day after day, night after night!
    only the people doing that becomes successfull! we can see it everywhere!
  • wouterdeprez
    I agree that you must work hard to really make it, but why so many leaders (that work hard) tell us it is so easy (you only need 2 people to make 5000 in a month, you only do this or that to become rich blablabla...)? Why don't they tell us the truth????
  • wouterdeprez
    I agree that you must work hard to really make it, but why so many leaders (that work hard) tell us it is so easy (you only need 2 people to make 5000 in a month, you only do this or that to become rich blablabla...)? Why don't they tell us the truth????
  • Erik
    Because the truth hurts and they worry they then will quit ? I don`t know if thats the only reason , but Im 100 % sure that if that`s the fact we need to change that :)
  • wouterdeprez
    I agree that you must work hard to really make it, but why so many leaders (that work hard) tell us it is so easy (you only need 2 people to make 5000 in a month, you only do this or that to become rich blablabla...)? Why don't they tell us the truth????
  • marvalouslife1
    "you need to work your butt off". that's the seacret.
    a leader is working hard.
    a grinder is talking himself to death.

    a leader teaches and support his network.
    a grinder is making a lot of hot air.

    thanks for this interview, Eric. i'm looking forword to the third one.

    Ron Ackerman - Israel
  • Mailen
    A lot of hard work to do . My intension is to be able to live of this profession. So I can not spend any more time in front of the pc now.
    Have a nice day ,everyone.
  • Erik
    Yes, hard work and meetings :) Work your butt off. And do it over and over and over again. And when you are sicking tired of doing it , do it again :) I know that when Tim Sales (another legend ) where building his network he practised on a old teddybear. And he also taped himself having his presentation to the teddy. Great show, thanks
  • Great idea - tape yourself audio and better still video - so you get feedback and can continuously improve.
  • Kjell Englund
    Work your butt of, be patience and do it over and over again to the new aduience every single day. Absolutely a clear message. Thanks John :-)
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